Carol Thatcher and the racist remark

[dannybcity]

Yes its true mate but I dont want to say anymore as im afraid im being portrayed as racist which i am most certainly am not :(

Was the explaination perfectly reasonable? I bet it was. Be honest they didn't just turn round and tell you it was due to ethnicity.

 

[dannybcity]

As a general point, why are so many of you desperate to be 'allowed' to use derogatory terms about other people. It's just plain weird.

This is also something I can't get my head around, you never hear people say "you can't call anyone a twat anymore". If somebody, even just one person, gets genuinely offended as a result of something I've said I usually feel quite guilty about it.

 

[johnmc]

As a general point, why are so many of you desperate to be 'allowed' to use derogatory terms about other people. It's just plain weird.

I'm arguing the opposite - no derogatory terms should be used by anyone, whether you claim that its alright because you are of that concern or not. Offensive terms are just that are they not regardless.

 

[Bigga]

I hope the stupid racist woman never works in media again

So you think sexism, ie referring to a woman as a 'woman', is fine?

But racism isn't fine?

You are hypocritical.

And before you start spouting that utter bollox argument about 'YOU HAVE TO TAKE CENTURIES OF HISTORY AND ABUSE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN JUDGING WHAT IS OFFENSIVE',

Far more women have been killed and abused as a result of historical prejudice than black people for instance.

So by your own shite argument, the word 'woman' is much more offensive than the n-word.

By your reasoning though, it would be ok for women to call themselves bitches.

Ignoring, for an incredulous moment that Black people have no women in their race... Do you have ANY facts and figures to back up the greatest guess of all time??

 

[coleridge]

In college ive got an australian mate and pakistani classmate. The problem arises when we go to call them... we call the oz "aussie" and the teachers never have a comment yet when you mention "paki" we get told to watch what we are saying. Can someone explain the difference ?
On that note we have a library (obviously) which sometimes has senior staff meetings. Why is it that when we try to go in at these times "we" get turned away and the pakistani is allowed in ?
Why is the pakistani allowed to go through a corridor which has a teacher "guarding" it when exams are ongoing and we get told sorry boys you will have to go around the other way?
Finally, why is it that when we dont complete work etc. on time we get in trouble and the pakistani gets told dont worry just bring it in next lesson ?

Are you 'pissedagain's' mate or are you just being deliberatley objectionable? The end of this thread is now nigh thanks to such bigoted nonsense as yours. If 'us Pakis' are involved in some mass conspiracy to undermine, suppress and eventually expel all master race specimens like you from this country, it's not going very well, is it? Why don't you try focusing on real issues such as how you are going to get a job/qualifications in a global recession, what should be done about war and poverty, and how will the planet survive from the ecological onslsught of humanity? But no, in your honour, for once I will repeat myself in a single thread and promise that my children and I will wear our 'The Pakis did it' t-shirts all weekend'. I'll even wear it at the match for you, if you like. Will that go some way to overcoming the massive injustice that 'your kind' has clearly suffered at the hands of the Pakis World Domination Party? Oh, and make sure you never get into a taxi with one of those bearded freaks, never eat curry and refuse to be seen by any doctor who isn't as Aryan as you. See how you get on.

This is the kind of response i feared.
Im sorry mate as i said earlier i did not intend to sound racist at all i was just reading someones earlier comment and it made me think of the situation in my college. Just for the record the pakistani lad is my mate and he doesnt care if we call him "paki" as he openly admits he does not find it offensive from his close friends. As a matter of fact me and him were working together on a project this morning so I would like to think that we are good friends :)

I APOLOGISE IF MY COMMENT CAME ACROSS RACIST BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IS EXACTLY NOT WHAT I AM.

Obviously, sir, you apology is completely accepted by me and I'm sure any one else who cared to read it. What I do not understand is that if you feared the response, why make the comments? It just seems to me that by reading too much in situations, completely unrealisitic conclusions are reached. For me, I cannot think of any circumstances in my life when I would have thought of calling any of my black friends by the n word, whether is irony or otherwise. Calling myself a Paki [although half English] is a response to parody the bigots and so weaken their aggression, not a justification of a word clearly meant to offend in almost all circumstances.

 

[shaundickov]

As a general point, why are so many of you desperate to be 'allowed' to use derogatory terms about other people. It's just plain weird.

Carol Thatcher sacked. Jonathan Ross suspended.

It's not about wanting to be allowed to use terms, it's about the RIDICULOUS notion that some offensive terms are deemed worthy of sacking, whilst others are not.

 

[coleridge]

mcfcdjr

Thank you for your very kind PM. You are obviously not a racist and I regret any inference that you were, for whcih I am sorry.

It seems to me that the good people of BM could teach the world a thing or two about harmony, peace and love.

Why I did get annoyed was my lifetime of experience with related comments. As I don't look Asian to some people, I hear all sorts of nonsense from unwitting bigots. For example, I was once in Conway on a Saturday night out [the high life I know] with my 'white' girlfirend and her sister, with the latter's boyfriend who was a copper. We were queueing up to get into a nightclub [I was young once!] when a group of drunken thugs told us not to bother as a couple of well-behaved Asian lads were allowed in whilst the thugs were not. 'You see', said one staggering lout, 'they let the Pakis in but not us'. The copper and I just looked at each other with open mouths and then decided that we would go elsewhere...

God bless you all. Can I finally suggest that, tomorrow, you sing your hearts out the lads. Thank you.

 

[dannybcity]

As a general point, why are so many of you desperate to be 'allowed' to use derogatory terms about other people. It's just plain weird.

Carol Thatcher sacked. Jonathan Ross suspended.

It's not about wanting to be allowed to use terms, it's about the RIDICULOUS notion that some offensive terms are deemed worthy of sacking, whilst others are not.

Ross 'offended' one man and apoligised, Thatcher offended a whole race and refused to apoligise.

 

[shaundickov]

I hope the stupid racist woman never works in media again

So you think sexism, ie referring to a woman as a 'woman', is fine?

But racism isn't fine?

You are hypocritical.

And before you start spouting that utter bollox argument about 'YOU HAVE TO TAKE CENTURIES OF HISTORY AND ABUSE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN JUDGING WHAT IS OFFENSIVE',

Far more women have been killed and abused as a result of historical prejudice than black people for instance.

So by your own shite argument, the word 'woman' is much more offensive than the n-word.

By your reasoning though, it would be ok for women to call themselves bitches.

Ignoring, for an incredulous moment that Black people have no women in their race... Do you have ANY facts and figures to back up the greatest guess of all time??

I have a history degree so I do know that persecution of women through the ages has been far more widespread than persecution of black people by white people or anyone else for that matter. I never said there were no black females.

Whilst in Britain the BBC is sacking people for saying gollywog, in the Middle East women are not allowed to drive cars. Which is more serious?

How come offensive words about women are deemed less offensive than offensive words about black people?

 

[shaundickov]

As a general point, why are so many of you desperate to be 'allowed' to use derogatory terms about other people. It's just plain weird.

Carol Thatcher sacked. Jonathan Ross suspended.

It's not about wanting to be allowed to use terms, it's about the RIDICULOUS notion that some offensive terms are deemed worthy of sacking, whilst others are not.

Ross 'offended' one man and apoligised, Thatcher offended a whole race and refused to apoligise.

Apoligised? How old are you? Am I arguing with a 10 year old in remedial school? FFS

Ross offended thousands of people, and generated far more complaints than Carol Thatcher did. Go back to your colouring in.