Celtic and Rangers potential as PL teams

dazdon said:
Even if it's a symptom of an issue it still doesn't mean it's not true.

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarianism_in_Glasgow" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarianism_in_Glasgow</a>

The stats are there and it isn't going to change any day soon.
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You said religion is the glue that holds them together,,,it isnt. In fact what goes on in the terraces is about as far from religion as you could get. Sectarianism is a different ball game, HOWEVER, its just as prevalent as right wing/fascist sympathising is in many clubs across Europe including England. It doesnt help that Celtic and Rangers are the only game in town (apologies to other SPL fans), they are under constant scruitiny by a media who hopes and prays for the latest whiff of sectarianism, Scandal sells like hotcakes, sectarianism sells like wildfire.
 
But you're denying the fact that religion is the cause of sectarianism between Rangers and Celtic.

Which is why new laws have been passed just this week to fight it.

It's not about how gullible the punters south of the border are it's a reality in Glasgow and it manifests itself through football.

Obviously sectarianism is evident in all walks of social life but in this context we were talking about two football clubs namely the Glasgow clubs.
 
dazdon said:
But you're denying the fact that religion is the cause of sectarianism between Rangers and Celtic.

Which is why new laws have been passed just this week to fight it.

It's not about how gullible the punters south of the border are it's a reality in Glasgow and it manifests itself through football.

Obviously sectarianism is evident in all walks of social life but in this context we were talking about two football clubs namely the Glasgow clubs.
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Religion isnt the cause of sectarianism. Ignorance, bloody mindedness and bigotry is. Religion is just an outlet. If it wasnt religion it would be something else as I alluded to in my other posts. My main point is how can you tackle the problem if you misunderstand it? It sounds like Im being pedantic I know but its really much too important to miss.
 
Religion isnt the cause of sectarianism. Ignorance, bloody mindedness and bigotry is. Religion is just an outlet. If it wasnt religion it would be something else as I alluded to in my other posts. My main point is how can you tackle the problem if you misunderstand it? It sounds like Im being pedantic I know but its really much too important to miss.
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I get your point and I agree with you...we're just coming at it from a different angle.

You're looking at the wider picture I know.
 
dazdon said:
Religion isnt the cause of sectarianism. Ignorance, bloody mindedness and bigotry is. Religion is just an outlet. If it wasnt religion it would be something else as I alluded to in my other posts. My main point is how can you tackle the problem if you misunderstand it? It sounds like Im being pedantic I know but its really much too important to miss.
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I get your point and I agree with you...we're just coming at it from a different angle.

You're looking at the wider picture I know.
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No worries blue...thank fuck we dont have to deal with it at City eh?...lol
 
If Celtic and Rangers were in the prem they would go down. If they were in the championship they would be a mid table team, and why would you want them in the prem there fans are noughting but trouble. look at what rangers fans did in the uefa cup final in manchester that time remember.
 
Pigeonho said:
I think it's fair to say that with investment of the likes that us and Chelsea have, both of them would be ginormous clubs, with Celtic perhaps toppling United.
If it were to happen, they should start in the conference and work their way up.
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Not sure. WIth their history I think they'd deserve a place in the PL.
THen again, there are so many clubs with a great history. That didn't keep Nottingham forrest from relegation either.
 
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