Cesc Fabregas signs for Chelsea (page 190)

Re: Cesc Fabregas

RandomJ said:
IanBishopsHaircut said:
I think a lot of people are forgetting we are the Champions of England for the 2nd time in 3 seasons, Theoretically we could sign noone and still challenge...in fact more so as the team knows each other

Realistically if we just signed Sagna and a centreback we would be in good shape

It doesn't work like that though does it. We stood still after we won the title the first time and got left behind. Every other team is strengthening their squads especially Chelsea and if we don't do the same we will fall behind next season. It's just how football is.

Our main striker was out for the majority of the season, coupled with Jovetic out and key injuries we had at important times in the season last year and I think you are seriously undervaluing our squad
 
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We really had an injury ridden season this time around. I read somewhere that Silva, Kompany, Toure and Aguero played for less than 300 mins together! But to assume that we would do better than last time without some strengthening is wishful because:

1) Although I do believe that with better injury management and assuming no early season wobbles like last time we should be better off, but injuries are never guaranteed. Although karma dictates that our rivals (Chelsea, Liverpool) should have to do without their key players for long periods, we shouldn't rely on it nor should we rely on having Silva, Aguero, Jovetic fit all season long.
2) Do we really expect 6/6 points against United and Everton next season (both would have strengthened, especially the former)? Arsenal and Liverpool should also prove difficult at home, and Chelsea can always take points off us. And Spurs should not be a walkover like this season, we've been really lucky getting 4 points of Southampton this season, and I expect Pocchetino to take Spurs a notch above.
3) Rivals are strengthening. Honestly, Arsenal with Ramsey would probably have meant a 4 way race till the last 3 weeks. Chelsea, with a top class striker, should be able to bag those silly dropped points.
4) Chelsea & Mourinho: Chelsea had a great squad and no injuries, but to me they looked to play a different system at the start of the season and when they were dropping points Mourinho returned to Plan A. What I mean to say is that they would probably have got more points if Mourinho had started off with Plan A (or if they had a decent striker). I expect both in the coming season and I seriously expect Chelsea to get 90+ points next season. We can't afford to give them any points next season.

Edit: Not a post in favor of signing (or not signing) Fabregas.
 
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bluechampion7891 said:
We really had an injury ridden season this time around. I read somewhere that Silva, Kompany, Toure and Aguero played for less than 300 mins together! But to assume that we would do better than last time without some strengthening is wishful because:

1) Although I do believe that with better injury management and assuming no early season wobbles like last time we should be better off, but injuries are never guaranteed. Although karma dictates that our rivals (Chelsea, Liverpool) should have to do without their key players for long periods, we shouldn't rely on it nor should we rely on having Silva, Aguero, Jovetic fit all season long.
2) Do we really expect 6/6 points against United and Everton next season (both would have strengthened, especially the former)? Arsenal and Liverpool should also prove difficult at home, and Chelsea can always take points off us. And Spurs should not be a walkover like this season, we've been really lucky getting 4 points of Southampton this season, and I expect Pocchetino to take Spurs a notch above.
3) Rivals are strengthening. Honestly, Arsenal with Ramsey would probably have meant a 4 way race till the last 3 weeks. Chelsea, with a top class striker, should be able to bag those silly dropped points.
4) Chelsea & Mourinho: Chelsea had a great squad and no injuries, but to me they looked to play a different system at the start of the season and when they were dropping points Mourinho returned to Plan A. What I mean to say is that they would probably have got more points if Mourinho had started off with Plan A (or if they had a decent striker). I expect both in the coming season and I seriously expect Chelsea to get 90+ points next season. We can't afford to give them any points next season.

Edit: Not a post in favor of signing (or not signing) Fabregas.[/quote]

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Hihosilva said:
bluechampion7891 said:
We really had an injury ridden season this time around. I read somewhere that Silva, Kompany, Toure and Aguero played for less than 300 mins together! But to assume that we would do better than last time without some strengthening is wishful because:

1) Although I do believe that with better injury management and assuming no early season wobbles like last time we should be better off, but injuries are never guaranteed. Although karma dictates that our rivals (Chelsea, Liverpool) should have to do without their key players for long periods, we shouldn't rely on it nor should we rely on having Silva, Aguero, Jovetic fit all season long.
2) Do we really expect 6/6 points against United and Everton next season (both would have strengthened, especially the former)? Arsenal and Liverpool should also prove difficult at home, and Chelsea can always take points off us. And Spurs should not be a walkover like this season, we've been really lucky getting 4 points of Southampton this season, and I expect Pocchetino to take Spurs a notch above.
3) Rivals are strengthening. Honestly, Arsenal with Ramsey would probably have meant a 4 way race till the last 3 weeks. Chelsea, with a top class striker, should be able to bag those silly dropped points.
4) Chelsea & Mourinho: Chelsea had a great squad and no injuries, but to me they looked to play a different system at the start of the season and when they were dropping points Mourinho returned to Plan A. What I mean to say is that they would probably have got more points if Mourinho had started off with Plan A (or if they had a decent striker). I expect both in the coming season and I seriously expect Chelsea to get 90+ points next season. We can't afford to give them any points next season.

Edit: Not a post in favor of signing (or not signing) Fabregas.[/quote]

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It was merely meant as a reply to a lot of posts supporting the notion that we should be OK with the squad as it is...
 
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
jimbopm said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

Call me daft but I don't understand why there should be such unease re the Yaya situation.

Let's say Yaya does indeed want to leave and has made that clear to the board. If i was Ferran Soriano I would say:

"Fair enough but we will not sell you unless a bid of £50 million comes in, not a penny less. Unless those conditions are met you're going nowhere, you've got 4 years left on a contract you wanted to sign a year ago".

We then either a) reach a deal with a club and have money to spend (Pogba or Vidal for me not Fabregas) b) he backs down and carries on for City or c) he continues to throw a wobbler and we stick him in the reserves.


Nice in theory, but City don't want to sell Yaya.

You don't pay someone of 31 £200k a week and stick him in the reserves. He has three years remaining.

And certainly to someone who has an agent who would have us in the papers every day.

A pissed-off Yaya, inside our dressing room, would be a very bad thing for our team on the pitch.

He is a very forceful character.

City have to be prudent and keeping a watching brief on Fabregas makes plenty of sense at this stage.

I suspect Yaya will announce it was all a huge misunderstanding, but we'll see.



I would rather have Yaya and his agent than Fabregas anyday of the week..


Yaya can change a game at any moment and a one off..

Fabregas is a good player but there are plenty like him.
 
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Well IMO all these shannigans re PSG and Chelsea in terms of a chess game would seem to have us in check. However we are not check mate.

Benefits to Chelsea - Weaken our prem squad. PSG get Yaya at discounted price or a price below Market value if they don't we end up with a disgruntled player on the books and with a limited budget will struggle to get a replacement.

1) To counteract and piss on their chips tell Yaya no deal to PSG anywhere else it will be considered. Tell him if he and his agent keep their gobs shut in a year they will look at a new contract for him.

That has twofold effect, means PSG get fuck all and we keep our best performing player from last year with a carrot dangling that he will get new contract next year.

Call Chelsea's bluff by keeping Yaya no real need for Fabregas as a replacement.

2) Sign Fernando and Sagna.

3) Magala can get to fuck as well whether Chelsea want him or not I can suffer the headlines of how they beat us to him etc etc., Fabregas as well if that comes to it.

4) Stick to the plan strengthen our defence there are other quality defenders out there besides Benatia and Mangala.
 

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