Cesc Fabregas signs for Chelsea (page 190)

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blue12 said:
After Txiki's sign him in a heartbeat comment I would be astonished if we are not making an effort to sign him .
We don't have the money to buy him, unless we sell someone we don't want to. Because we need a centre back infinitely more than we need Fabregas.
 
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Goal.com used to be a joke of a website however over the last year or so they seem quite clued up on City. I think they must have contacts now with the club as they tend to be pretty spot on with us.
 
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goal to be fair do seem to be in the loop with city now. god I hope its true as fabregas would be sensational in our team!
 
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Tricky_Trev said:
blue12 said:
After Txiki's sign him in a heartbeat comment I would be astonished if we are not making an effort to sign him .
We don't have the money to buy him, unless we sell someone we don't want to. Because we need a centre back infinitely more than we need Fabregas.

If we sell Richards, Milner, Sinclair, Guidetti and possibly Garcia then we can afford Fabregas and top class centre back
 
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MeatHunterrr said:
Tricky_Trev said:
blue12 said:
After Txiki's sign him in a heartbeat comment I would be astonished if we are not making an effort to sign him .
We don't have the money to buy him, unless we sell someone we don't want to. Because we need a centre back infinitely more than we need Fabregas.

If we sell Richards, Milner, Sinclair, Guidetti and possibly Garcia then we can afford Fabregas and top class centre back


Can people stop thinking that Garcia i leaving. He is as close to leaving as Aguero is. Rodwell is the one who has been pushed out because of his lack of skill that the rest of the squad had. Garcia and Fernando will have the same slot to fight for, although Fernandinho can be used in the same slot as he was last season.

I see it that IF we sell Milner (13-17m), Rodwell(8-15), Richards (7-10), Sinclair (2-4) and Guidetti (2-6)(Feynoord could pay alot more) then we will have the money for Cesc and a central defender.

I dont want milner to go because we do not have another player like him and its a rare stile that he has that works in the hard games away.
 
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The Premier League champions want to bring the Barcelona midfielder back to England in light speculation surrounding Yaya Toure's future, but Arsenal are also in the race

By Wayne Veysey

Manchester City are preparing to table a €37 million offer for Cesc Fabregas amid interest from his former club Arsenal, Goal understands.

The Premier League champions have decided to make a formal move for the Barcelona midfielder, who has been told he can leave Camp Nou this summer.

City are ready to bid imminently for Fabregas in an attempt to lure the 27-year-old back to the Premier League, while Goal also understands Arsenal have not ruled out a move for their former captain, with the Gunners closely monitoring his situation.

The Londoners are preparing to put together a package to compete with City in the race for the midfielder, who remains on good terms with manager Arsene Wenger despite effectively going on strike to force through his transfer to Barcelona in 2011.

There is also interest from Liverpool and Chelsea, who are in the market for a central midfielder after Frank Lampard confirmed he is leaving the club.

Goal revealed in May that Barcelona would listen to offers for Fabregas this summer as they looked to free up funds to reshape their midfield.

Barca and their new coach Luis Enrique are looking to sign Atletico Madrid midfielder Koke and have told Fabregas he can find a new club.

Under the terms of the buy-back clause in Fabregas' Barcelona contract, the Catalan club would have to inform Arsenal of any bid for the player and give them the opportunity to match it.

City are ready to make the first move for Fabregas amid growing uncertainty over the future of Yaya Toure, who has made it clear he is not entirely happy at the Etihad Stadium.

Wenger also remains a huge admirer of Fabregas and is weighing up a move for his former protege despite appearing to have a wealth of technically adept attacking midfielders in his squad. The pair spoke regularly on the phone last summer about the Spain international returning to the club where he blossomed into one of Europe's outstanding young midfielders.

The Barca academy graduate is at a crossroads in his career as he enters the final two years of his contract with the Catalan club in July.

Fabregas was jeered by home supporters during Barcelona's 2-1 home victory over Athletic Bilbao in April and became a scapegoat towards the end of last season.


Source : goal.com
 
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Llandegren said:
MeatHunterrr said:
Tricky_Trev said:
We don't have the money to buy him, unless we sell someone we don't want to. Because we need a centre back infinitely more than we need Fabregas.

If we sell Richards, Milner, Sinclair, Guidetti and possibly Garcia then we can afford Fabregas and top class centre back


Can people stop thinking that Garcia i leaving. He is as close to leaving as Aguero is. Rodwell is the one who has been pushed out because of his lack of skill that the rest of the squad had. Garcia and Fernando will have the same slot to fight for, although Fernandinho can be used in the same slot as he was last season.

I see it that IF we sell Milner (13-17m), Rodwell(8-15), Richards (7-10), Sinclair (2-4) and Guidetti (2-6)(Feynoord could pay alot more) then we will have the money for Cesc and a central defender.

I dont want milner to go because we do not have another player like him and its a rare stile that he has that works in the hard games away.

I reckon the best deal for those players you listed would be 10 m for Milner and the others would be either a nominal fee of around 1 or 2 m or a loan/free transfer.
They simply have either a terrible injury record, loss of form or not good enough to command those fees.
 
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Shirley said:
Llandegren said:
MeatHunterrr said:
If we sell Richards, Milner, Sinclair, Guidetti and possibly Garcia then we can afford Fabregas and top class centre back


Can people stop thinking that Garcia i leaving. He is as close to leaving as Aguero is. Rodwell is the one who has been pushed out because of his lack of skill that the rest of the squad had. Garcia and Fernando will have the same slot to fight for, although Fernandinho can be used in the same slot as he was last season.

I see it that IF we sell Milner (13-17m), Rodwell(8-15), Richards (7-10), Sinclair (2-4) and Guidetti (2-6)(Feynoord could pay alot more) then we will have the money for Cesc and a central defender.

I dont want milner to go because we do not have another player like him and its a rare stile that he has that works in the hard games away.

I reckon the best deal for those players you listed would be 10 m for Milner and the others would be either a nominal fee of around 1 or 2 m or a loan/free transfer.
They simply have either a terrible injury record, loss of form or not good enough to command those fees.

Milner has a clause for around 12-15m, Everton are in need of a central midfielder and since Barry aint going back they perhaps will have to go for him and we will accept the offer either way. We've had a bid for Richards from Hull (around 8m) and that could be pushed up if needed.

My thought only.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

Llandegren said:
MeatHunterrr said:
Tricky_Trev said:
We don't have the money to buy him, unless we sell someone we don't want to. Because we need a centre back infinitely more than we need Fabregas.

If we sell Richards, Milner, Sinclair, Guidetti and possibly Garcia then we can afford Fabregas and top class centre back


Can people stop thinking that Garcia i leaving. He is as close to leaving as Aguero is. Rodwell is the one who has been pushed out because of his lack of skill that the rest of the squad had. Garcia and Fernando will have the same slot to fight for, although Fernandinho can be used in the same slot as he was last season.

I see it that IF we sell Milner (13-17m), Rodwell(8-15), Richards (7-10), Sinclair (2-4) and Guidetti (2-6)(Feynoord could pay alot more) then we will have the money for Cesc and a central defender.

I dont want milner to go because we do not have another player like him and its a rare stile that he has that works in the hard games away.

Selling almost our entire English contingent is probably as likely as Garcia going, I just don't think we'll do it. You're leaving pretty much just Hart as the only English guy in the dressing room of an English club!
 
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
Replacing Milner.

Milner is offski. Has offers on the table from Liverpool and Arsenal.

Factors in about £10m.

Also expect Kolarov to come into the equation for Benatia plus cash.

As things stand, Yaya still not going anywhere and club no intention of selling.

We are going to be unstoppable, Possibly fab!

Sagna and Fernando next few days.

Getting rid of Milner and Kolarov for Benatia and possibly Fabregas wouldn't make us unstoppable, we'd be lopsided without an equally class attacking left back, and loosing a lot of very useful steel in Milner.
 
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adrianr said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Replacing Milner.

Milner is offski. Has offers on the table from Liverpool and Arsenal.

Factors in about £10m.

Also expect Kolarov to come into the equation for Benatia plus cash.

As things stand, Yaya still not going anywhere and club no intention of selling.

We are going to be unstoppable, Possibly fab!

Sagna and Fernando next few days.

Getting rid of Milner and Kolarov for Benatia and possibly Fabregas wouldn't make us unstoppable, we'd be lopsided without an equally class attacking left back, and loosing a lot of very useful steel in Milner.

yh, Kolarov is an option we should not be selling, we'd regret it imo as he offers something very few LBs do, none of which we'd be looking to replace him with.
 
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Could we fund it by selling our young Belgian centre back (not Vinnie, the other one) to NYCFC for £25m and then loaning him back until March to keep him fit and fulfil our UCL quota requirements?
 
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From marca..

Cesc Fàbregas has decided to leave Barcelona and José Mourinho's Chelsea seems to be his next stop. With Frank Lampard embarking on an adventure in New York, there is a difficult gap to fill and the man from Arenys is the chosen one. The player may have even had a medical at Stamford Bridge last week according to unconfirmed reports.

Fàbregas was in London and various sources have revealed that Chelsea had the player flown over to the British capital on a private jet for a fleeting visit. The deal is far from sealed, however, as Manchester City have made their way back into the running for the midfielder, having seemingly dropped their interest at one stage.

City and Chelsea are the two main sides in contention to sign Cesc. His agent, Darren Dein, was negotiating with several Premiership clubs over the weekend, all too aware of the Spaniard's excellent reputation in England following an eight-year stint at Arsenal.

Barcelona will cash in on Fàbregas this summer. Andoni Zubizarreta will finally make a player sale for a considerable sum of money which is not vastly lower than the fee paid to bring him to the club. All departures in the last five years, with the exception of Yaya Toure, have been financially disastrous for the 'Azulgranas', who have consistently paid over the odds for players and sold on the cheap.
 
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I don't get the logic of saying Cesc in if Yaya out ( How was that Dids D' ).

They are very different players and its far from like for like.
 
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adrianr said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Replacing Milner.

Milner is offski. Has offers on the table from Liverpool and Arsenal.

Factors in about £10m.

Also expect Kolarov to come into the equation for Benatia plus cash.

As things stand, Yaya still not going anywhere and club no intention of selling.

We are going to be unstoppable, Possibly fab!

Sagna and Fernando next few days.

Getting rid of Milner and Kolarov for Benatia and possibly Fabregas wouldn't make us unstoppable, we'd be lopsided without an equally class attacking left back, and loosing a lot of very useful steel in Milner.
The loss of Milner's steel could be offset by the capture of Fernando
 
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adrianr said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Replacing Milner.

Milner is offski. Has offers on the table from Liverpool and Arsenal.

Factors in about £10m.

Also expect Kolarov to come into the equation for Benatia plus cash.

As things stand, Yaya still not going anywhere and club no intention of selling.

We are going to be unstoppable, Possibly fab!

Sagna and Fernando next few days.

Getting rid of Milner and Kolarov for Benatia and possibly Fabregas wouldn't make us unstoppable, we'd be lopsided without an equally class attacking left back, and loosing a lot of very useful steel in Milner.


Many are addressing my post quite literally, where does it elaborate on what else City and the manager would do to address your valid concerns?

'Replacing Milner' was supposed to demonstrate where City are attempting to balance the transfer spending cap this summer, same with Rodwell.

Same can be evidenced with Kolarov and Benatia, unless people believe they are also like-for-like replacements, considering their different positions.

Nothing has changed on Fabregas, we have a strong interest.

I understand the club are wary of revealing ourselves to the market for all our possibles, because of the transfer cap, and the problems it would cause us in terms of moving players on.

The uncertainty with Yaya may not help matters.

The only debate to be had is whether posters believe we are interested?
 
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
adrianr said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Replacing Milner.

Milner is offski. Has offers on the table from Liverpool and Arsenal.

Factors in about £10m.

Also expect Kolarov to come into the equation for Benatia plus cash.

As things stand, Yaya still not going anywhere and club no intention of selling.

We are going to be unstoppable, Possibly fab!

Sagna and Fernando next few days.

Getting rid of Milner and Kolarov for Benatia and possibly Fabregas wouldn't make us unstoppable, we'd be lopsided without an equally class attacking left back, and loosing a lot of very useful steel in Milner.


Many are addressing my post quite literally, where does it elaborate on what else City and the manager would do to address your valid concerns?

'Replacing Milner' was supposed to demonstrate where City are attempting to balance the transfer spending cap this summer, same with Rodwell.

Same can be evidenced with Kolarov and Benatia, unless people believe they are also like-for-like replacements, considering their different positions.

Nothing has changed on Fabregas, we have a strong interest.

I understand the club are wary of revealing ourselves to the market for all our possibles, because of the transfer cap, and the problems it would cause us in terms of moving players on.

The uncertainty with Yaya may not help matters.

The only debate to be had is whether posters believe we are interested?
i believe were deffo interested suppose its weather fabregas is happy to come to us which would be easier with our spanish players or is london the place he really wants
 
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Two points on Fabregas in my opinion for what it's worth.

1. We must show some interest in a player who is both talented and more importantly Premier league ready and would fit into our team easily. Even if it is just to throw our hat into the ring, putting pressure on others to overpay it makes sense. How many times have other clubs used a situation like this to make it difficult for us to sign someone, it's part of the business side of things. And.
2. Perhaps it puts a bit of pressure on the 'recently prima donna' Yaya - a midfield of the two Fernans plus a Cesc is a realistic option to the big man and maybe by showing a little interest may make Yaya realise the world doesn't just revolve around him and he should stop mucking about with the hand that feeds him?
 
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pml79 said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
adrianr said:
Getting rid of Milner and Kolarov for Benatia and possibly Fabregas wouldn't make us unstoppable, we'd be lopsided without an equally class attacking left back, and loosing a lot of very useful steel in Milner.


Many are addressing my post quite literally, where does it elaborate on what else City and the manager would do to address your valid concerns?

'Replacing Milner' was supposed to demonstrate where City are attempting to balance the transfer spending cap this summer, same with Rodwell.

Same can be evidenced with Kolarov and Benatia, unless people believe they are also like-for-like replacements, considering their different positions.

Nothing has changed on Fabregas, we have a strong interest.

I understand the club are wary of revealing ourselves to the market for all our possibles, because of the transfer cap, and the problems it would cause us in terms of moving players on.

The uncertainty with Yaya may not help matters.

The only debate to be had is whether posters believe we are interested?
i believe were deffo interested suppose its weather fabregas is happy to come to us which would be easier with our spanish players or is london the place he really wants


My personal opinion is that him moving to Chelsea would be a great surprise.

The dots don't seem to join?

He supposedly has great affection for Arsenal, so to undo all that goodwill by moving to a main rival in the city, would be a ballsy move for someone like him.

There are plenty of examples down the years of players not giving a toss, Ashley Cole, springs to mind, but Arsenal only allowed Fabregas to leave because of his desire to go 'home'.

He can compete and get wedged at various clubs. If London is the crucial factor, then Arsenal are missing an open goal and City can do nothing, anyways.

For the record, and perhaps a little example of some journos over-egging it.

The reports state Fabregas is the replacement for Frank Lampard, in light of his announcement yesterday that he was leaving.

That can't be true, as Chelsea still offered Lampard terms to stay, and the timeline is out of whack.

Fabregas arrived back in London last weekend.
 

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