Cesc Fabregas signs for Chelsea (page 190)

[bluechampion7891]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Fabregas would be a pointless signing imo. He is not what we need at all.
Would rather Sanchez or Di Maria who would be far more beneficial to us.

I agree. Sell Rodwell, Garcia, Richards, Guidetti, Sinclair and we should have enough funds to get Sanchez. Milner can then be the 4th CM

 

[George Hannah]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Fabregas would be a pointless signing imo. He is not what we need at all.
Would rather Sanchez or Di Maria who would be far more beneficial to us.

or Pedro according to today's rumours

 

[adrianr]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Fabregas would be a pointless signing imo. He is not what we need at all.
Would rather Sanchez or Di Maria who would be far more beneficial to us.

or Pedro according to today's rumours

I've wanted to sign Pedro forever, but I'd much rather us have signed Fabregas. Shame we couldn't defer the punishment because he's someone who could run our midfield for the next 5 years.

 

[Mancitybluemoon1]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Fabregas would be a pointless signing imo. He is not what we need at all.
Would rather Sanchez or Di Maria who would be far more beneficial to us.

I agree....good call mate....This would give us more width and fit a bigger need than CM, where we currently have a number of players that can play that role....

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

 

[dancity19]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Fabregas would be a pointless signing imo. He is not what we need at all.
Would rather Sanchez or Di Maria who would be far more beneficial to us.

I agree....good call mate....This would give us more width and fit a bigger need than CM, where we currently have a number of players that can play that role....

Fair- but what I am confused by is Txiki's comment a few weeks ago; something along the lines of "if Fabregas was available I'd sign him with my eyes closed"- sure I heard that?

I'm not sure it is FFP stopping this, either. I'd be hugely surprised if the only signings we made were to be Fernando, a CB and Sagna.

I think we can always look to improve the midfield, especially if Yaya goes, gets injured, or just isn't as interested after his comments.

Fabregas would be ideal for our set up. The fluidity of a trio of Nasri, Fabregas and Silva, ahead of Fernando and Fernandinho, and behind Aguero would be sublime. And that team is without Yaya.

Don't forget Pellegrini's ability to seemingly improve these kind of players beyond the levels they have performed at previously.

 

[BlueDejong]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

WTF....

 

[flb]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

So it's either Fabregas or a CB then-not both if we are keeping Yaya

Choices choices choices!

 

[jimbopm]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

If this is the case Tolm, why don't we just call their bluff? Let Chelsea sign Fabregas, Costa and Mangala, that's the best part of £100 million spent. Surely that would be them spent for the summer.

I believe Fabregas and Mangala are non essential targets for us, let them play games, if they are doing it just to piss us off then they are going to wind up the clubs, players and agents and make things harder for themselves in future.

 

[bluesince76]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

Ever watched Storage Hunters? Get your opponent to overspend early on and they've not got any cash left when the good stuff appears. Chelsea are quids in with their sales, PSG is just ignoring Platini and we're on a budget.

I suspect this could be a tricky window and we may have to accept we'll be at a disadvantage this season. That may be why our focus is on the long game with future profit streams at the forefront of what's happening this summer - NYCFC, M(elbourne)CFC, more seats at the Etihad etc

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

WTF....

Yep, can't pretend to understand it all.

Chelsea sign Fabregas, they win.

Paris sign Yaya, we sign Fabregas, Chelsea win.

Chelsea and Paris are becoming very close. There are a number of mutual deals on the horizon for them in the next couple years, mainly Oscar and Hazard.

 

[adrianr]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

Unsurprising to hear that other clubs are lining up to kick us while we're down. Shame we weren't so ruthless the summer after we won the league.

 

[mcfcstu]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

So Chelski have turned into PSG's feeder club.

 

[dancity19]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

Ever watched Storage Hunters? Get your opponent to overspend early on and they've not got any cash left when the good stuff appears. Chelsea are quids in with their sales, PSG is just ignoring Platini and we're on a budget.

I suspect this could be a tricky window and we may have to accept we'll be at a disadvantage this season. That may be why our focus is on the long game with future profit streams at the forefront of what's happening this summer - NYCFC, M(elbourne)CFC, more seats at the Etihad etc

'Accept we are at a disadvantage'- We can't, and won't do that.

We did that last time we won the league, though the Mancini issue will have been something to do with that.

We didn't strengthen where we needed to. No way will we make that mistake again. We will want to make a real impression on next seasons Champions League.

 

[flb]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

Ever watched Storage Hunters? Get your opponent to overspend early on and they've not got any cash left when the good stuff appears. Chelsea are quids in with their sales, PSG is just ignoring Platini and we're on a budget.

I suspect this could be a tricky window and we may have to accept we'll be at a disadvantage this season. That may be why our focus is on the long game with future profit streams at the forefront of what's happening this summer - NYCFC, M(elbourne)CFC, more seats at the Etihad etc

In that case then mate we need to offload Yaya, we will never realise a decent fee for him after this window

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Chelsea sign Fabregas, they win.

Paris sign Yaya, we sign Fabregas, Chelsea win.

Without wanting to sound thick, why would PSG signing Yaya and us getting Fabregas be a win for Chelsea?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

If this is the case Tolm, why don't we just call their bluff? Let Chelsea sign Fabregas, Costa and Mangala, that's the best part of £100 million spent. Surely that would be them spent for the summer.

I believe Fabregas and Mangala are non essential targets for us, let them play games, if they are doing it just to piss us off then they are going to wind up the clubs, players and agents and make things harder for themselves in future.

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Chelsea sign Fabregas, they win.

Paris sign Yaya, we sign Fabregas, Chelsea win.

Without wanting to sound thick, why would PSG signing Yaya and us getting Fabregas be a win for Chelsea?

Because Chelsea can genuinely take it or leave it with Fabregas.

A City team without Yaya only enhances Chelsea's attempts to win the league back.

A further example of Chelsea's games...

They were recently telling Sagna that they wanted him and were prepared to pay him the big bucks. It was pretty much bullshit, but they knew City were at the table and would have to cough up a bit more in wages.

City should have demanded that UEFA kept the terms of our punishment a secret, but UEFA had the convenient situation of also having to open it to the floor for other clubs to appeal.

Everyone has been allowed to formulate a strategy around our own constraints and targets/sales in this summer's market.

 

[jimbopm]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

If this is the case Tolm, why don't we just call their bluff? Let Chelsea sign Fabregas, Costa and Mangala, that's the best part of £100 million spent. Surely that would be them spent for the summer.

I believe Fabregas and Mangala are non essential targets for us, let them play games, if they are doing it just to piss us off then they are going to wind up the clubs, players and agents and make things harder for themselves in future.

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

Call me daft but I don't understand why there should be such unease re the Yaya situation.

Let's say Yaya does indeed want to leave and has made that clear to the board. If i was Ferran Soriano I would say:

"Fair enough but we will not sell you unless a bid of £50 million comes in, not a penny less. Unless those conditions are met you're going nowhere, you've got 4 years left on a contract you wanted to sign a year ago".

We then either a) reach a deal with a club and have money to spend (Pogba or Vidal for me not Fabregas) b) he backs down and carries on for City or c) he continues to throw a wobbler and we stick him in the reserves.

 

[adrianr]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

If this is the case Tolm, why don't we just call their bluff? Let Chelsea sign Fabregas, Costa and Mangala, that's the best part of £100 million spent. Surely that would be them spent for the summer.

I believe Fabregas and Mangala are non essential targets for us, let them play games, if they are doing it just to piss us off then they are going to wind up the clubs, players and agents and make things harder for themselves in future.

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

Call me daft but I don't understand why there should be such unease re the Yaya situation.

Let's say Yaya does indeed want to leave and has made that clear to the board. If i was Ferran Soriano I would say:

"Fair enough but we will not sell you unless a bid of £50 million comes in, not a penny less. Unless those conditions are met you're going nowhere, you've got 4 years left on a contract you wanted to sign a year ago".

We then either a) reach a deal with a club and have money to spend (Pogba or Vidal for me not Fabregas) b) he backs down and carries on for City or c) he continues to throw a wobbler and we stick him in the reserves.

As much as fans would love to see it sometimes, the sooner everyone accepts that we won't just chuck a multi million pound asset in the reserves to prove a point the better.