Cesc Fabregas signs for Chelsea (page 190)

[RandomJ]

I tell you what this confirms...birthday boy will definitely still be with us next season

Exactly,hence we have no requirement for Fabregas.

As others are saying,we get Benatia,or an equal,and we're laughing.

Yes but will we have Birthday boy who plays like he did this season or will we have Birthday boy throwing the worlds biggest sulk that he didn't get a new contract and therefore plays gash. If there is any player you don't want to play half arsed it's Yaya.

 

[TonyM]

There's a smell of gas off him anyway. Fapper gas.

 

[stony]

I can't understand why some people are so disappointed.

I'll tell you why I'm disappointed. Fabregas is one of a small group of players who have both the ability and the pedigree to play for our team. He's a much better player than bothRodwell and Garcia. He's versatile enough that he can play any of the attacking midfield positions as well as central midfield ones. He has had the right footballing education for where our team is at and where it's going.

Notwithstanding all of that ... now he's gone to Chelsea fuck him we move on and for me we're still favourites to win the league next season and whether or not his move to Chelsea works out only time will tell.

Neither of whom are first choice, so who would you drop to accommodate him because he certainly wouldn't come here to sit on the bench.

 

[Rösler von Stretfordbömber]

Cech
Ivanovic - Cahill - Terry - Azpilicueta
Fabregas - Matic
Willian - Oscar - Hazard
Costa

v

Aguero
Nasri - Yaya - Silva
Fernandhino - Fernando
Kolorov - Benatia - Kompany -Zab
Hart

(If it is like for like I am still more confident in our team rather than Chelsea)

Even if it was Nastasic or MDM there rather than Benatia I'd still take what we have over Cahill-Terry.

And I suspect Benatia very well may be on at this point. Maybe that was never off, and maybe we just needed to show Roma that we weren't going to pay 50 mil.

 

[fbloke]

Courtois
Ivanovic - Cahill - Terry - Azpilicueta
Fabregas - Matic
Willian - Oscar - Hazard
Costa

v

Aguero
Nasri - Yaya - Silva
Fernandhino - Fernando
Kolorov - Benatia - Kompany -Zab
Hart

(If it is like for like I am still more confident in our team rather than Chelsea)

A quick change for you ;-)

 

[Mancitybluemoon1]

What makes this disappointing (away from a very good player going to a rival) is how quickly, efficiently, and with no fuss chelsea go about their business.

We have some quality guys doing it for us now, and they did exactly what was required last summer, BUT when you see Chelsea get £40m for Luiz, and get Fabregas signed before the world cup you have to say they really know what they are doing. They have got key business done before the world cup, which we know is important.

Anyway, it's 12th June, we will get exactly what we need, I am sure.

I agree mate...Hate to say it but they are getting their business done quickly......aren't we the ones that have said are business was all completed during the season???...I'm not sure that was true.....I was never a big fan of Fabreges to City...infact those rumours never made much sense to me, so not disappointed we didn't sign him BUT Chelsea moved fast and got it done and I really don't understand why it takes us so long for us to target a player and get him signed.....I guess we'll feel better once we get some good news confirmed...

 

[01cravend]

Cech
Ivanovic - Cahill - Terry - Azpilicueta
Fabregas - Matic
Willian - Oscar - Hazard
Costa

v

Aguero
Nasri - Yaya - Silva
Fernandhino - Fernando
Kolorov - Benatia - Kompany -Zab
Hart

(If it is like for like I am still more confident in our team rather than Chelsea)

They are in for Felipe Luis as well. Move Azpil to RB and Luis in at LB

Add Mourinho's tactics against the better teams and it's in the balance . A draw or won by either side by a single goal for me

 

[Matt.D]

----------------Hart

Zab Kompany Benatia/Mangala Kolarov

--------------Fernando

--------Yaya---------Fernandinho

Silva -----------------------Nasri
-------------Aguero

Bench, 7 from:
Keeper
Di Michellis
Sagna
Nastasic
Clichy
Milner
Garcia
Navas
Jovetic
Dzeko
Negredo

Of course Chelsea will be very strong, but we are also addressing the weakest areas of our title winning squad. They will be a big threat but some of you seem to have crowned them champions already. Our squad will be equally strong and unlike them we have 4 top strikers, 1 of whom is in the top 5 players in the world. Chill.

 

[Daz_Blue]

Cech
Ivanovic - Cahill - Terry - Azpilicueta
Fabregas - Matic
Willian - Oscar - Hazard
Costa

v

Aguero
Nasri - Yaya - Silva
Fernandhino - Fernando
Kolorov - Benatia - Kompany -Zab
Hart

(If it is like for like I am still more confident in our team rather than Chelsea)

Combined

Cech

Zabba Kompany Benatia Kolorov

Hazard Yaya Fernandinho Fabregas Silva

Aguero

2 from Chelsea in my opinion ........ and that is not biased it is how I see it

 

[Anonymous]

I can't understand why some people are so disappointed.

I'll tell you why I'm disappointed. Fabregas is one of a small group of players who have both the ability and the pedigree to play for our team. He's a much better player than bothRodwell and Garcia. He's versatile enough that he can play any of the attacking midfield positions as well as central midfield ones. He has had the right footballing education for where our team is at and where it's going.

Notwithstanding all of that ... now he's gone to Chelsea fuck him we move on and for me we're still favourites to win the league next season and whether or not his move to Chelsea works out only time will tell.

Neither of whom are first choice, so who would you drop to accommodate him because he certainly wouldn't come here to sit on the bench.

I'd play 3 in midfield more often. It's moot but that's what I would've done.

 

[jollylescott]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

I watched Fabregas every week for Barca and I'd describe him as the opposite of consistent. He was mediocre for most of the second half of the season and went missing in all of the big games. He doesn't come anywhere close to Yaya at the moment. People seem more interested in a quota than quality (same with the goalkeeper situation).

Sorry LC ... I like your posts and agree with 90% of them but you have a huge blind spot when it comes to Fabregas. The guy is absolutely undoubtedly world class. Yes he has had a dip in form in the 2nd half of the season for Barca but that was in a team which overall was pretty bereft of confidence or ideas.

Frankly, we might all love Yaya. But prior to the season just gone his productivity was NOWHERE near what Fabregas has consistently done both at Barca and at Arsenal.

Fabregas is a better player than Toure, and he's younger. The fact Toure's had the season he just had does not mean he will repeat it ever again whereas Fabregas has done it consistently over nearly a decade.

Everyone's productivity is good at Barca, because even when they have an average season they score 100 goals. Ibra had good stats for Barca too, but was far from a glowing success. Indeed, if Fabregas had been so good, why are Barcelona so desperate to sell a player in his prime years after going to such lengths to sign him back? Especially with Xavi pretty much finished, too. He's had his moments in the last 3 years for sure, but by and large has been a disappointment. Even under Pep.

He is what I consider to be a class stats padder, or has been recently. He'll help bury relegation fodder then do absolutely squat in El Clasico or against Atletico. If you look at him on paper, he looks amazing. If you watch him every week all season, he flatters to deceive. I watch every Barca/Real game, it's been a habit of mine in the last few years, and Fabregas has been really, really average. He was subbed off in 7 of Barcelona's 8 biggest games this season after doing nothing. There was all the talk of his "Barcelona DNA", but he has just as much "Arsenal DNA" with a weak big match mentality. People criticise Nasri for this, but at least Nasri stepped up in a few big games. Fabregas didn't in even one this season, he was a passenger (another reason I struggle to see Chelsea signing him, Mourinho wants everyone alive for 90 minutes).

On no level has can I see how he has been better than Yaya Toure recently. Last season, Yaya Toure was the perfect example of a great Premier League footballer. Not only that, Yaya has years of chemistry and experience in this City team now and functions as the heartbeat. Everything goes through him, he's the best passer of the ball in the Premier League, and to replace him without planning would sort of upset the balance and fluency this team has built.

The grass isn't always greener...

I'd have Koke over Fabregas all day long. A stunning player not living on reputation and strongly rumoured to be the midfielder Barca most want this summer. To me, this news we don't want Fabregas, if true, is like music to my ears. It'd be something of a Torres signing, IMO, buying more on reputation than performance, when there are young, hungry players out there (like Koke or Pogba) who would be more exciting signings.

Have to agree with LC over Billy on the effectiveness of Fabregas last season. He has flattered to deceive, and I will be surprised if Mourinho gets more out of him. Anyway I will be more than happy to match up Yaya, Fernandinho and Fernando against any Chelsea midfield.

 

[CatMan]

Cech
Ivanovic - Cahill - Terry - Azpilicueta
Fabregas - Matic
Willian - Oscar - Hazard
Costa

v

Aguero
Nasri - Yaya - Silva
Fernandhino - Fernando
Kolorov - Benatia - Kompany -Zab
Hart

(If it is like for like I am still more confident in our team rather than Chelsea)

Spot on.

And when we have Dzeko, Negredo, Jovetic, Navas, MDM, Sagna and Clichy as subs, then we win more times than we lose.

 

[andyhinch]

I'll tell you why I'm disappointed. Fabregas is one of a small group of players who have both the ability and the pedigree to play for our team. He's a much better player than bothRodwell and Garcia. He's versatile enough that he can play any of the attacking midfield positions as well as central midfield ones. He has had the right footballing education for where our team is at and where it's going.

Notwithstanding all of that ... now he's gone to Chelsea fuck him we move on and for me we're still favourites to win the league next season and whether or not his move to Chelsea works out only time will tell.

Neither of whom are first choice, so who would you drop to accommodate him because he certainly wouldn't come here to sit on the bench.

I'd play 3 in midfield more often. It's moot but that's what I would've done.

Would it have quashed your interest in Barclay?

 

[RandomJ]

I do love the transfer forum when we miss out on a player with the huge long posts about how they're shit anyway and the team is good enough without them when you know had we signed them the very same people would be posting saying how good a player they are and how we're going to dominate now we have said player.

 

[mscenterh750]

Right cart this topic off to the G.F.F. please.

He's not coming and didn't want nor need him.

 

[GoMancini7]

Chelsea doing some great negotiation lately.

Last January they wanted a def. midfielder went for MAtic and he was their in less than a week. Cost around 20m but was a good buy lot better than the 15m Garcia for us.

Also they will have the Belgian Cortois fantastic keeper seriously could be the top3 GK in the world in next 10 years not far off from Neuer in my opinion who is the best.

Maybe they sell Lukaku too for 30m. Would we get even 20m for Negredo or Dzeko?

 

[SebastianBlue]

Neither of whom are first choice, so who would you drop to accommodate him because he certainly wouldn't come here to sit on the bench.

I'd play 3 in midfield more often. It's moot but that's what I would've done.

Would it have quashed your interest in Barclay?

We would have to break the bank to make a signing that big.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Right cart this topic off to the G.F.F. please.

He's not coming and didn't want nor need him.

Exactly. It Makes me laugh that some Posters think we're after every single player available and when they don't sign they get disappointed.

 

[stony]

I'll tell you why I'm disappointed. Fabregas is one of a small group of players who have both the ability and the pedigree to play for our team. He's a much better player than bothRodwell and Garcia. He's versatile enough that he can play any of the attacking midfield positions as well as central midfield ones. He has had the right footballing education for where our team is at and where it's going.

Notwithstanding all of that ... now he's gone to Chelsea fuck him we move on and for me we're still favourites to win the league next season and whether or not his move to Chelsea works out only time will tell.

Neither of whom are first choice, so who would you drop to accommodate him because he certainly wouldn't come here to sit on the bench.

I'd play 3 in midfield more often. It's moot but that's what I would've done.

But if we sign Fernando, Yaya and Fernandinho will be freed to push up more often. We know what Yaya can do, and we've seen glimpses of what Dinho can do going forward, if fact Dinho was fucking awesome last year. Can you imagine how good he will be when someone is covering his back.
I'm doubtful Fabregas could improve the first team, the squad yes, undoubtedly. However, I think any impact he would have would be minimal and in no way worth the transfer fee or the wages.

 

[Anonymous]

Neither of whom are first choice, so who would you drop to accommodate him because he certainly wouldn't come here to sit on the bench.

I'd play 3 in midfield more often. It's moot but that's what I would've done.

But if we sign Fernando, Yaya and Fernandinho will be freed to push up more often. We know what Yaya can do, and we've seen glimpses of what Dinho can do going forward, if fact Dinho was fucking awesome last year. Can you imagine how good he will be when someone is covering his back.
I'm doubtful Fabregas could improve the first team, the squad yes, undoubtedly. However, I think any impact he would have would be minimal and in no way worth the transfer fee or the wages.

As I say it's moot now ... I'm disappointed but it'll pass ... in fact it's passing with each passing minute so to speak!

Fernando is coming with a huge reputation and in actual fact he could well be the guy who releases Yaya and Dinho which in turn could be as productive as signing Fabregas as you say.

No jokes though I'll cry if Barkley moves to the rags this summer ;)