Champions League Draw & TV Pairings

maybe Bayern is for City a good choice? OKTOBERFEST hahah. ALtough it would be incredible boring again
 
How the fuck are the rags in pot 2?

I thought they were guaranteed pot 3?

Fuck you UEFA. The only bonus being is we'll scrape the group of death and rags will finish bottom of the group of deffo.
 
On the face of it the new seedings are a step in the right direction but for the champions of the leagues with more teams it's not great. The champions of England will have a limited choice from pot 2. There's a high chance they'll get a spanish team from pot 2 and vice versa the spanish champions have a far greater chance of facing one of the English teams.

I don't understand why they don't just get rid of seedings completely, the very definition of it means it favours the established elite. The champions league would be infinitely more enjoyable if it were a completely open draw. If it means a group of death and some of the bigger teams going out then so be it.
 
maybe Bayern is for City a good choice? OKTOBERFEST hahah. ALtough it would be incredible boring again

Why boring ? every trip has been great. Last year was a bit embarrassing that we only took 1,500 with Bayern fans sat in the City bit.
 
Best Scenario
PSV
City
Dynamo Kyiv
Astana

Worst Scenario
Barcelona
City
Roma
Wolfsburg

I think we are due a bit of luck in the CL draw and the best thing about the new system is that now we can't get Real or Atletico.
 
How the fuck are the rags in pot 2?

I thought they were guaranteed pot 3?

Fuck you UEFA. The only bonus being is we'll scrape the group of death and rags will finish bottom of the group of deffo.
Next year unless they win the league or reach the champion's league final *snigger*
 
For Travel galore, City want Zenit, Galatasaray and Astana. This group would cost City a bare minimum of 6 points in the league.
 
Draw broadcast on BT Europe & Radio 5 Live begins on Thursday 27th August @4:30pm GMT with the first heated/chilled ball pulled out of the fix machine at 4:45pm

The draw pots are as follows - based on club coefficients at the end of last season:

Pot 1 (Champions):
FC Barcelona (ESP, holders) coefficient: 164.999
FC Bayern München (GER) 154.883
Chelsea FC (ENG) 142.078
SL Benfica (POR) 118.276
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) 100.483
Juventus (ITA) 95.102
FC Zenit (RUS) 90.099
PSV Eindhoven (NED) 58.195

Pot 2:
Real Madrid CF (ESP) 171.999
Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 120.999
FC Porto (POR) 111.276
Arsenal FC (ENG) 110.078
Manchester United FC (ENG) 103.078 [Q1}
Valencia CF (ESP) 99.999 [Q2]
Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) 87.883 [Q3]
Manchester City FC (ENG) 87.078

Pot 3:
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 86.033 [Q4]
Sevilla FC (ESP) 80.499
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) 72.983
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) 65.033
Olympiacos FC (GRE) 62.380
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) 55.599 [Q5]
Galatasaray AŞ (TUR) 50.020
AS Roma (ITA) 43.602

Pot 4:
VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) 33.883
VfL Wolfsburg (GER) 31.883
FC BATE Borisov (BLR) 35.150 [Q6]
GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) 24.700 [Q7]
Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) 18.200 [Q8]
KAA Gent (BEL) 13.440
Malmö FF (SWE) 12.545 [Q9]
FC Astana (KAZ) 3.825 [Q10] KAZ = Kazakhstan

10 Qualifiers from play-off games
5 Play-Off Winners (League Qualifying Route):
AS Monaco FC (FRA) 31.483 -OR- Valencia CF (ESP) 99.999 (Agg: 3-4) -> Valencia into Pot 2.
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 86.033 -OR- SK Rapid Wien (AUT) 15.635 (Agg: 3-3) -> Shakhtar into pot 3 on away goals.
Club Brugge KV (BEL) 41.440 -OR- Manchester United FC (ENG) 103.078 (Agg: 1-7) -> Utd into pot 2.
Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) 87.883 -OR- SS Lazio (ITA) 49.102 (Agg: 3-1) -> Bayer into pot 2.
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) 55.599 -OR- Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) 56.276 (Agg: 4-3) -> CSKA into Pot 3.
5 Play-Off Winners (Champions Route):
GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) 24.700 -OR- KF Skënderbeu (ALB) 5.575 (Agg: 6-2) -> Dinamo into Pot 4.
Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) 18.200 -OR- FC Basel 1893 (SUI) 84.875 (Agg: 3-3) -> Maccabi into Pot 4 on away goals.
Malmö FF (SWE) 12.545 -OR- Celtic FC (SCO) 39.080 (Agg: 4-3) -> Malmö into Pot 4.
APOEL FC (CYP) 35.460 -OR- FC Astana (KAZ) 3.825 (Agg: 1-2) -> Astana into Pot 4.
FK Partizan (SRB) 14.775 -OR- FC BATE Borisov (BLR) 35.150 (Agg: 2-2) -> Bate into Pot 4 on away goals.

Draw Groups, Red/Blue Groups and Sides of the Draw:
If the Draw is arranged as previously then...
  • Champions League Groups A to D are 'red' groups and on the 'red' side of the draw.
  • Champions League Groups E to H are 'blue' groups and on the 'blue' side of the draw.
  • The 'blue' side of the draw (Groups E to H) is the other side of the draw to the 'red side' of the draw (Groups A to D). Similarly, the 'red' side of the draw is the other side of the draw to the 'blue' side of the draw.
Special Draw Rules:
  • Russian and Ukrainian teams will not be able to play each other!
TV pairing principle:
  • Once one team in a TV pairing is drawn to a red group (A to D) or blue group (E to H) then the second team in the group can only be drawn to a group on the other side of the draw. Examples [1] if Barcelona are drawn to Group C (a red group) then their pair (normally Real Madrid) can only be placed in a blue group (E-H). [2] If Barcelona are drawn to Group F (a blue group) then their pair (normally Real Madrid) can only be placed in a red group (A-D).
Known TV pairings:
  • Spain (ESP) [1]*: FC Barcelona [Pot 1] & Real Madrid [Pot 2].
  • Ukraine (UKR): FC Dynamo Kyiv [Pot 2] & FC Shakhtar Donetsk [3].
  • France (FRA): Paris Saint-Germain [Pot 1] & Olympique Lyonnais [Pot 3].
  • Italy (ITA): Juventus [Pot 1] & Roma (Pot 3].
  • Russia (RUS): FC Zenit [Pot 1] & PFC CSKA Moskva [Pot 3].
  • Portugal (POR): SL Benfica [Pot 1] & FC Porto [Pot 2].
Note: * = This TV pairing is in a country with more than 2 teams in the draw. It is a pair that id NORMALLY set up by the countries broadcaster(s). That said there is no absolute guarantee that this pairing will be in place for this draw!

Unknown TV pairings:
  • Spain: Club Atlético de Madrid/Sevilla FC/Valencia CF
  • England: Chelsea/Arsenal/Manchester City/Manchester United
  • Germany: Bayern Munich/VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach/VfL Wolfsburg/Bayer 04 Leverkusen
 

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