Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

[Le Havre Oswald]

Fuck it is it too late to go back into the super League?

 

[gorton loyal]

Tuchel idolizes Pep, he states that himself. He has gone in to chelsea and he has effectively set them up to play against us, no one else but us. He did it in the german league when against Bayern. The signs were there in the league game and the semi-final of the FA cup

It was just unfortunate that we had to play against them in the CL

It has nothing to do with the team selected whatsoever, Chelsea would have played the same way - this is the new threat for next season, just like the dippers did when they started challenging klipperty came in to beat us as the marker

It is down to Pep to change the structure and counter which he will do. We will make big moves in the market to make this happen

Chelsea have a bloody good team, they just under performed when lampard was in charge.

Chelsea will be challenging next season no doubt.

But I wont post on here tonight slagging our bloody manager and players off when the team we were against had our number regardless of what was done - it happens

We will learn and it will make us stronger and better

CTID

No City were a fucking Disgrace tonight and that result was down to 1 man fucking about with the team and including sterling

 

[Metalartin]

As over the top as I think the Sterling flak is at times, he can't afford to have another season like this one. It used to be that even if he's missing sitters he'd be creating havoc with his movement on and off the ball but he's not offering much at all when he plays, opposition are happy to let him have it these days and dispossess him when they choose to.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

No I’m just sad we were the ones falling down all over the pitch like a Spanish or Italian club

I got to admit sterling was annoying. Tbh kdb black eye, foden bravery and just keep going attitude were better examples of how hard we played

 

[jaiguruKun]

Are Chelsea a better team? No
Do Chelsea have a stronger starting 11? No
Is Tuchel a better manager than Pep? No

So, why did we lose and where did it go wrong? Player mentality and Pep. One plays into the other. They say shit rolls down hill, so does confidence. Many players would of seen that starting 11 tonight and lost confidence, that is where it went wrong. The players internally would of questioned the managers decisions like many fans and that is what we seen play out on the pitch, lack of confidence and uncertainty.

Bang on. The players were like rabbits in headlights from the start. We were crying out for Fernandinho's experience and leadership.

 

[Marklr]

OUCH!!!

 

[Toulousain85]

To be honest even if Ferna was there and we played same way as the semi I'm not sure it's going to be much different. They basically put 8 players behind the ball, suffocated the middle, and they just need to pass the ball to their wingers as fast as possible. Not that much different from how Wolves beat us 2 times last season really. We tried an attacking lineup, played a slow passing game and that played right into their hands.
With the players we have currently I can only think of one solution, which is to play more direct (like Ederson did in the first minutes).

 

[Chippy_boy]

Utter bollocks - pep had a day just a day not a great one perhaps but ffs he has won the premiership btw and that takes all season so just ponder that for a moment and then maybe u might realize what a monumental achievement that actually was and then ponder , if u can, we lost a cup match ,a one off -go think again - we have the best, the best coach in the world -just remember that when we do win that cup which we will sooner or later

No-one is questioning his ability to manage a squad over 38 games. At rotating, keeping everyone motivated, everyone playing the same system and being able to keep going irrespective of injuries and suspensions? He's demonstrably the best. We will win the league yet again next season, I have no doubt.

The issue is the one-off biggest, must win games. The question is, can he do it in the biggest game when it doesn't matter how you win, you just have to win. For 10 years now, he:s failed, even when having one of, if not the best team. And he's done it again tonight.

It's not just tonight is it. So questions do have to be asked

 

[come-on-barney]

WHAT THE FUCK was our defense doing on their goal??? Walker presses him then just backs up and let's him pick out a pass... Gutted

What was the plan full stop?????

 

[citymad]

The Aussie commentators where I am watching are gobsmacked with the selection. They reckon Pep over-thought it.

Nope, don’t you know This was Guardiolas ace card, play a player who hasn’t played well for months, can’t kick the ball properly and who loves to run into a bunch of players hoping to come out with the ball. Unfortunately Chelsea just laughed and said thank you very much.