Champions League Group Stage

I can't see draw on uefa.com because of my proxy settings! Never been a problem before!

got it on phone...
 
What a load of needless shite, doesn't take that long to heat a few balls.
 
I think if they are going to put league champions in pot 1, then they should do away with TV or country exclusions. I cannot wrap my head around how scenarios arise where there can be 5 open spots, but only 1 or 2 are "allowable" during these draws. Fuck that, let fate decide, and just deal with it.

the money people are not too keen on that idea mate. this is why this competition will never be taken seriously, too stage managed to be anything other than a charade.
 

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