Channel deaths | Four confirmed dead after migrant boat tragically capsizes (p 41)

[The perfect fumble]

None of them are illegal - as a signatory of the 1951 Geneva Convention anyone can travel to any country and apply for asylum for any reason - its up to the recipient country to process those asylum claims - we have a Govt refusing recognise international laws to which we are a signatory ( and indeed mostly created ) and failing to deal with claims in a timely manner. Even Sunak confirmed that yesterday in the House.

He confirmed there was a backlog, for reasons that are apparent to everyone.

The huffing and puffing about breaking international law is just that, I'm happy to be proved wrong but as it stands we've not actually broken any laws as yet and I doubt if these charlatans will.

Everything around immigration is playing to the gallery, what irks me is that we have entrenched positions glaring across a divide. The progressive position is untenable, it brooks no criticism around this issue screaming racism at anyone who blanches at anything other than open door, and the right wing position plays to an ethnic nationalism while dog whistling swamping.

It's why Labour will never be trusted on the issue, no matter how fucked up a mess the Tories make of it.

 

[bluethrunthru]

He confirmed there was a backlog, for reasons that are apparent to everyone.

The huffing and puffing about breaking international law is just that, I'm happy to be proved wrong but as it stands we've not actually broken any laws as yet and I doubt if these charlatans will.

Everything around immigration is playing to the gallery, what irks me is that we have entrenched positions glaring across a divide. The progressive position is untenable, it brooks no criticism around this issue screaming racism at anyone who blanches at anything other than open door, and the right wing position plays to an ethnic nationalism while dog whistling swamping.

It's why Labour will never be trusted on the issue, no matter how fucked up a mess the Tories make of it.

Read the 1951 Geneva Convention - educate yourself rather than embarrass yourself

https://www.unhcr.org/4ca34be29.pdf

 

[bluethrunthru]

He confirmed there was a backlog, for reasons that are apparent to everyone.

The huffing and puffing about breaking international law is just that, I'm happy to be proved wrong but as it stands we've not actually broken any laws as yet and I doubt if these charlatans will.

Everything around immigration is playing to the gallery, what irks me is that we have entrenched positions glaring across a divide. The progressive position is untenable, it brooks no criticism around this issue screaming racism at anyone who blanches at anything other than open door, and the right wing position plays to an ethnic nationalism while dog whistling swamping.

It's why Labour will never be trusted on the issue, no matter how fucked up a mess the Tories make of it.

And don't get me wrong I am watching Stephen Kinnock on Newsnight right now and the Labour stance on this is almost as vie as the Tories

 

[The perfect fumble]

Read the 1951 Geneva Convention - educate yourself rather than embarrass yourself

https://www.unhcr.org/4ca34be29.pdf

I know what it says.

 

[The perfect fumble]

And don't get me wrong I am watching Stephen Kinnock on Newsnight right now and the Labour stance on this is almost as vie as the Tories

That's New Labour for you.

Bit of a hole for them, the Right Wing anti immigration fruit loops are convinced they know who started the rot....

 

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Just seeing it and what a hero Ray and his crew are.

What a shambles of a country we are.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I know what it says.

Really? Have you read all 270 pages?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Really? Have you read all 270 pages?

If I said yes, would you believe me?

 

[bluethrunthru]

If I said yes, would you believe me?

If you put it in context and told me why - I did so some years ago based on some work I was doing researching for Unite so I was compelled to - you?

 

[The perfect fumble]

If you put it in context and told me why - I did so some years ago based on some work I was doing researching for Unite so I was compelled to - you?

No, I've not read it, I know the gist of it, but in truth it's not really the issue.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that even this shower of shit are misinterpreting the convention, they're just irked they're chained to it and don't have the mechanisms in place to process the numbers.

Besides it's all swept up in the usual bullshit, economic migrants, and worse, criminals, masquerading as asylum seekers out to take our homes, our jobs, our women!

I'm sick to death of it.