Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

[When The Levee Breaks]

I suspect that this explains why you are not a gambling man.

"Prove me wrong"

 

[Giovinco]

He ain’t surviving that he immediately goes into the hands bent that means his brains shutting down, won’t lose any sleep over it. This was always going to happen with the hatred preached by MAGA

What a lovely post this is

Someone has died and you post things like this

Deary me

 

[mexico1970]

Dr Martin Luther King Jr., Pres John F Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy can all testify to this.

But nobody I knew or heard of made excuses for those murders, there isn't an excuse for this murder unless you're an utter ****.

 

[Postman Pep]

People here keep on "quoting" him out of context , but a tiny bit of research, actually listening to what HE said, not out of context bollocks, would show anyone that whether you agreed with him or not (and I didn't on many matters), he was a decent human being trying his best to fight for what he believed in (rightfully or not). People here dehumanise him to "justify" his murder, but that's just despicable. I wouldn't wish death to anyone, let alone some lad who never harmed anybody. He had some bad takes(some good ones too btw.), and? He deserved to die for it?! I see we have a lot of gun violence fans on here.

You are clearly a fan and I don't really want to intrude on your grieving process but if you insist throwing around blanlet accusations, while complaining about a "lack of context" .... here's a few for you to explain to the class.

 

[1961_vintage]

"Prove me wrong"

What does that even mean "prove me wrong"? You have your opinion - and whilst I don't share it, you are perfectly entitled to it.

In my view Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to be killed for having an opinion. I would say exactly the same if Greta was murdered for having an opinion and/or trying to do good for the people of Palestine, or indeed anyone else that you care to mention.

 

[liveandletdive]

You are right. The Right Wingers have always been the biggest snowflakes and virtue signallers

No your not right, nobody would be cracking the champagne, if Greta was assassinated, it would be a tragedy. Right wingers the biggest snowflakes, your smoking something you shouldn't be, better have a lie down in your safe space.

 

[Bluemoon115]

He thought people being shot was necessary for patriotic reasons, didn't believe in empathy and thought kids should witness public executions.

So it's not hit very high on my sympathy scale.

 

[oakiecokie]

You are clearly a fan and I don't really want to intrude on your grieving process but if you insist throwing around blanlet accusations, while complaining about a "lack of context" .... here's a few for you to explain to the class.View attachment 169195

You`re wasting your time with Haaland as he`s a hard core fanatic and can`t see anything wrong with any of these statements. After all its "free speech" gone wrong. ;)

 

[When The Levee Breaks]

What does that even mean "prove me wrong"? You have your opinion - and whilst I don't share it, you are perfectly entitled to it.

In my view Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to be killed for having an opinion. I would say exactly the same if Greta was murdered for having an opinion and/or trying to do good for the people of Palestine, or indeed anyone else that you care to mention.

"Prove me wrong" was on the side of the tent that Charlie was sat in, before he was brutally murdered. You'd have to ask someone at Turning Point what it means.

I guess it was his direct challenge to people. To change his opinion on something?

FWIW I don't think he deserved to die either. Just interesting to see the reaction to his death. Melissa Hortman died 3 months ago and the fact there were 2 school shootings, on the same day and barely a mention.

 

[inchy14]

The pilots comment was blatantly racist.

He knew full well that all pilots have to meet a minimum FAA standard to even make it to the cockpit of a commercial flight. He was simply race-baiting for $$$$$$$$$$$

 

[blueinsa]

Not a gambling man, but I'd bet a month's salary...nay a years salary thar the same people who are saying Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to be killed for having an opinion, would be cracking out the jelly and ice cream if Greta Thunberg got blown up by the Israelis.

So are you saying he did deserve to die?

 

[1961_vintage]

So are you saying he did deserve to die?

He/She's already said not ^^^^^^^^

 

[SWP's back]

So your using Charlie Kirk’s own argument to justify a point. Guess you agree with him then?

Surely if you don’t agree with his views and gun violence you wouldn’t be using his arguments in relation to someone being killed by guns.

I think the fact that he was shot whilst denying that anything should be done about gun violence weakens his argument on the subject.

 

[When The Levee Breaks]

So are you saying he did deserve to die?

No I'm not. Not stated that anywhere in my post.

Im saying the same people who are saying he didn't deserve to die, would be quite different, if someone who was seen as "left wing" were murdered.

 

[johnny crossan]

You are clearly a fan and I don't really want to intrude on your grieving process but if you insist throwing around blanlet accusations, while complaining about a "lack of context" .... here's a few for you to explain to the class.View attachment 169195

Where is this list of examples from? Can they be linked to known interviews or articles?

 

[Blue Maverick]

What a lovely post this is

Someone has died and you post things like this

Deary me

See post 732 to see why

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

I think the fact that he was shot whilst denying that anything should be done about gun violence weakens his argument on the subject.

Wasn't he shot when he was asked how many mass shooters had been transgender?

 

[madloaf]

Where is this list of examples from? Can they be linked to known interviews or articles?

Google is your friend.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Where is this list of examples from? Can they be linked to known interviews or articles?

Try Google it’s all there

 

[Haaland94]

I think I'm yet to see anyone claim he deserved to die in this thread, just fans of the american right wing compalining about it.

I'd also argue Charlie Kirk did a great deal of harm to a lot of people by spreading and whipping up his racist, islamaphobic and transphobic hate, which still doesn't mean he deserved to die, but he was absolutely not a harmless "lad" and he wasn't "just trying his best to fight for what he believed in", he was profiteering from political division.

Lastly, all the quotes I've seen on here have all the necessary context, I'd be interested in hearing which ones get explained away by context, I suspect they're just explained away by you mostly agreeing.

I have not seen anything to substantiate any of this. His personal beliefs are not harming anyone. I have never seen him disrespectful in his countless videos. I have seen nothing but a lot of respect in his debates towards anyone, including people he completely dosagreed with.

I have seen people here claiming he doesn't believe in empathy, when he seems to have plenty of that, especially for American people. They use some cherrypicked quote when he explains why he doesn't believe in empathy under particular circumstances. He picks and chooses when to emphasise though, like most on here. If he is so bad, so are people on here.