Chelsea (H) | Post-Match Thread

Silvaguerro said:
It's not slagging off - is stating the truth. The truth is these guys are not fast enough, fit enough or clever enough on the ball to play For a world class City side. Gundogun has got goals this season which I do appreciate - many more than he has compared to all the seasons before. Only because, I believe, cancelo and Bernardo did the dirty work behind him in central midfield which was gundogs primary responsibility. No matter, he got the goals this season which is great. But I really believe that he's been a one season wonder. Look at his assists - he's created 3, just 3. And many people thoughthe was meant to replace David Silva. I honestly believe there are better midfielders than gundogun and rodri right here in the premier League
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Unfortunately pep likes midfielders far too much, so that's the way it's going to be
 
Silvaguerro said:
Unfortunately pep likes midfielders far too much, so that's the way it's going to be
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Silvaguerro said:
It's not slagging off - is stating the truth. The truth is these guys are not fast enough, fit enough or clever enough on the ball to play For a world class City side. Gundogun has got goals this season which I do appreciate - many more than he has compared to all the seasons before. Only because, I believe, cancelo and Bernardo did the dirty work behind him in central midfield which was gundogs primary responsibility. No matter, he got the goals this season which is great. But I really believe that he's been a one season wonder. Look at his assists - he's created 3, just 3. And many people thoughthe was meant to replace David Silva. I honestly believe there are better midfielders than gundogun and rodri right here in the premier League
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It's not stating the truth, it's stating your opinion. Just as I am doing.

Rodri and Gundogan have been two of the best midfield players in the league this season and are a large part of the reason that we are in the position that we are in now. It's also clear that the best manager in the world rates our two very highly. I wouldn't swap either of them for Kante personally, as good a player as he is.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
It's not stating the truth, it's stating your opinion. Just as I am doing.

Rodri and Gundogan have been two of the best midfield players in the league this season and are a large part of the reason that we are in the position that we are in now. It's also clear that the best manager in the world rates our two very highly. I wouldn't swap either of them for Kante personally, as good a player as he is.
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That's perfectly fine, that's why we love football isn't it. Two people can look at the same game and come up with 2 different opinions. Unlike say cricket, where you don't need to look past the highest run scorer or wicket taker. But for me Im always disappointed when these 2 start. And I'm always fearful that these guys are going to cost us a big game one of these days
 
Silvaguerro said:
Unfortunately pep likes midfielders far too much, so that's the way it's going to be
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Why unfortunately.
He's hardly a failure, is he.
While a lot of us look purely at the individual abilities of a player, Pep likes to look at how an individual player fits into the team. A brilliant player that isn't a team player is never going to be part of a Pep team. He will always go for a player that is a prepared to be a cog in his machine.
That's the reason his team's are always greater than the sum of their parts.

If you read the link below, it'll give you great idea of how he thinks and operates.

Edit: I couldn't post the link so I've copied and pasted the article:

Pep Guardiola Says Ronaldinho, Deco, and Eto'o Are Free to Go
SALAAR SHAMSI
JUNE 17, 2008
New Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola has revealed that Ronaldinho, Deco, and Samuel Eto'o are not part of his plans for next season, while stating that the club would not pursue Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo.

Guardiola, a former Barcelona captain, was officially unveiled today as the Catalan club's first-team coach.

And he admitted the big name trio—all of whom have been linked with moves to the Premier League—are surplus to requirements.

"All of the players in the first-team squad last season are of a very high level," he said. "But with the technical secretary we are forming a squad and Deco, Ronaldinho, and Eto'o are not in our minds."


However, Guardiola admitted he would be happy to keep Ronaldinho if the Brazilian could recapture his best form.

"If I felt that he wanted to be the player he was again, he would be here," he added. "But the situation has deteriorated and the solution is to build a strong dressing-room."

The imminent departure of the Brazilian and the recent exit of Giovani Dos Santos to Tottenham means Guardiola will be short of options on the left flank.

However, the 37-year-old ruled out a summer swoop for Manchester United winger Ronaldo.

"I wouldn't make a space for him in the team, even though I think he is a very good player," he said.

Guardiola said the club's top priority is to sign a striker. "We will look at the possibility of bringing in a winger, but if we don't then that's fine; the priority is a number nine," he said.

He joked, "We are looking for a number nine who scores 60 goals for us."

However, the coach claimed Thierry Henry remains very much a part of his plans, despite an indifferent first season at the Nou Camp.

He said, "I am looking for a number nine, we need one to complement Henry and Bojan (Krkic). "I want the three to feel like first-team starters."

Now it's quite possible that Chelsea may be the likely destination for Ronaldinho and Deco, while Samuel Eto'o will find himself in the middle of a tug of war between AC Milan and Inter Milan
 
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Silvaguerro said:
That's perfectly fine, that's why we love football isn't it. Two people can look at the same game and come up with 2 different opinions. Unlike say cricket, where you don't need to look past the highest run scorer or wicket taker. But for me Im always disappointed when these 2 start. And I'm always fearful that these guys are going to cost us a big game one of these days
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Yes, we have opposite opinions on this one but nothing wrong with that. I am always happiest when I see a midfield 3 of Rodri, Gundogan and Bernardo. I just think they complement each other superbly.
 
48 hours have passed since the final whistle blew on Saturday. Sunday night I got bugger all sleep as I was still fuming. Last night a good 7 hours so calmness has returned in my (and my wife's) life.
 
Bluekiwi said:
48 hours have passed since the final whistle blew on Saturday. Sunday night I got bugger all sleep as I was still fuming. Last night a good 7 hours so calmness has returned in my (and my wife's) life.
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I'm still fuming!
Absolutely spoilt the weekend
 
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