Chelsea-Liverpool, United-Leeds, Brighton-Palace all off, rest of the games on (pg 128)

[SebastianBlue]

 

[Nails]

I don't think you quite comprehend that for many it isn't a huge moment. It might be for you. It isn't for me, and I imagine many others share my sentiment.

I'm not going to shed tears over a 96 year old woman, who has a led a life of imcomparable luxury ensconced in dozens of palaces around the country, passing away in the best possible comfort, with healthcare that peasants could only dream of until the very end. Nope. Not a fucking chance. My gran had to die in hospital this year, surrounded by few family members at a time, away from home and all the little she had left to cherish. I cried for her. But I'm not going to cry over this because the ubiquitous media and their royal lapdogs are telling me I should. Telling me we are grieving. Kindly fuck off.

Football is my life. I was due to go with my nephew this weekend. Those who wanted could have paid due respects at the game. Minutes silence, don the black armbands, get on with the match and with life.

Instead of that, I have to walk into the co-op for bread and milk whilst being serenaded by solemn music, then come out of the shop to see a billboard of her face, telling me once more I should be in a period of mourning.

People are struggling to feed their kids and heat their houses. But next month, once again, we're going to apportion hard earned millions (tens of) to a state funeral. And for what? Is that going to help with people's bills?

As a nation we don't need to grieve, we need to give our priorities a stark recheck.

I’d like to like this 1000 times.

 

[Nails]

If people have to keep explaining why it's such a big deal, then maybe they're not realising just how much things have changed. It quite simply isn't a big deal for many, many people, myself included. Historically I get why it is, I suppose, but it absolutely doesn't feel like it's something I'll ever care about because there is simply no emotional attachment to the royal family for lots of people.

This is nothing more than the passing of another famous person for many of us. Admittedly an ultra famous person, probably the most famous person in the world, but still just that. She did her job very well and many people obviously love her, but I don't think it's unfair to say that the overriding feeling for an awful lot of people is that her passing will not change their lives in any way at all. A trending news topic, 'aww that's sad, she seemed nice', and that's it. Life cracked on almost immediately

She didn't 'give' many of us anything. At least that's how it feels. The monarchy feels incredibly antiquated, out of touch, and basically unimportant, for many people these days. Lots of the younger generation just see it all as tourism boosting, and vaguely know about her knighting people etc, and maybe the queen's speech (which I've genuinely never watched, because why would I? There's good films on and it's Christmas day...) - none of these things are going to particularly inspire passionate feelings are they?

To me, and I'm genuinely not trying to be disrespectful, because fuck me I can't be arsed with a cancelling, City finally beating Spurs would be a more memorable day. It really would. Because City have a direct impact on my life and football is something I think about every day. I think of the Queen absolutely never, unless she was all over the news, because she had absolutely no bearing on my day to day life in any shape or form whatsoever. At very least that's the perception for many. If people want to argue that isn't true, then go for it, but that isn't my fault. It's a result of the increasingly detached relevance the royal family have to modern society.

To be honest, maybe you're right. Maybe it is a big deal, but not in the way you think it is. Maybe it's real significance is that her passing will slowly signify the end of the monarchy as something of any relevance at all in the modern age. Historic, yes, but particularly emotional and pertinent to many of us? Nope. I think it's quite telling how many people are upset over football being cancelled. If this really had shook the nation, no one would be arsed about it being off, but ultimately it just hasn't. Vast majority cracked on with their day within half hour I'd guess. Sorry if this bothers anyone. Just trying to explain what it feels like on the other side.

Bravo!

 

[Grassland Blue]

The cricket would have been cancelled had she reigned 75 years and the rugby 80.

Is that how it works? ;-)

It could well be.
But what about horse racing, golf, boxing, motor sports, tennis, swimming, curling, etc. Have we already passed the required number of years for those sports or would she have had to serve even longer?

 

[Grassland Blue]

I have had a go at and moaned about Netflix many times, but by fuck it has come into its own as a lifesaver from the endless vomit inducing shit on normal telly. Where do they find these people? All toffs.

Did you watch "The Kings' Speech" by any chance?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It could well be.
But what about horse racing, golf, boxing, motor sports, tennis, swimming, curling, etc. Have we already passed the required number of years for those sports or would she have had to serve even longer?

Who knows. The decisions were probably made via a random draw done by Rod Stewart.

 

[shemnel]

Tributes at the cricket were cracking, very glad it stayed on. Last night's band cracked on in the local pub, he toasted the Queen (not my thing but whatever) and launched into Don't Stop me Now (nicely done). Sailing regatta pressed on with flag at half mast, all and sundry out with the kids and having a nice time. RNLI station open day continued. Saw my mate whos 7 year old was banned from football training (nevermind an actual game) in tears. Ridiculous.

At no point did I see any of these continuing events disrespect a dead monarch. I don't understand how they can.

 

[bluesince76]

Class warfare. Can't allow the plebs to make the monarchy look bad.

They meant the scousers being at home would have booed, but they can't say that

 

[goater1985]

If people have to keep explaining why it's such a big deal, then maybe they're not realising just how much things have changed. It quite simply isn't a big deal for many, many people, myself included. Historically I get why it is, I suppose, but it absolutely doesn't feel like it's something I'll ever care about because there is simply no emotional attachment to the royal family for lots of people.

This is nothing more than the passing of another famous person for many of us. Admittedly an ultra famous person, probably the most famous person in the world, but still just that. She did her job very well and many people obviously love her, but I don't think it's unfair to say that the overriding feeling for an awful lot of people is that her passing will not change their lives in any way at all. A trending news topic, 'aww that's sad, she seemed nice', and that's it. Life cracked on almost immediately

She didn't 'give' many of us anything. At least that's how it feels. The monarchy feels incredibly antiquated, out of touch, and basically unimportant, for many people these days. Lots of the younger generation just see it all as tourism boosting, and vaguely know about her knighting people etc, and maybe the queen's speech (which I've genuinely never watched, because why would I? There's good films on and it's Christmas day...) - none of these things are going to particularly inspire passionate feelings are they?

To me, and I'm genuinely not trying to be disrespectful, because fuck me I can't be arsed with a cancelling, City finally beating Spurs would be a more memorable day. It really would. Because City have a direct impact on my life and football is something I think about every day. I think of the Queen absolutely never, unless she was all over the news, because she had absolutely no bearing on my day to day life in any shape or form whatsoever. At very least that's the perception for many. If people want to argue that isn't true, then go for it, but that isn't my fault. It's a result of the increasingly detached relevance the royal family have to modern society.

To be honest, maybe you're right. Maybe it is a big deal, but not in the way you think it is. Maybe it's real significance is that her passing will slowly signify the end of the monarchy as something of any relevance at all in the modern age. Historic, yes, but particularly emotional and pertinent to many of us? Nope. I think it's quite telling how many people are upset over football being cancelled. If this really had shook the nation, no one would be arsed about it being off, but ultimately it just hasn't. Vast majority cracked on with their day within half hour I'd guess. Sorry if this bothers anyone. Just trying to explain what it feels like on the other side.

Bang on the money how I feel. Whilst understanding and acknowledging the magnitude of her death, I'm far more upset about the football being cancelled.

That isn't meant to sound cold or harsh but the queen had zero impact on my life.

People should be allowed to mourn how they see fit. And I feel applause/silence or whatever at a game would show much more respect and be beamed across the world.

 

[bluesince76]

I don't think you quite comprehend that for many it isn't a huge moment. It might be for you. It isn't for me, and I imagine many others share my sentiment.

I'm not going to shed tears over a 96 year old woman, who has a led a life of imcomparable luxury ensconced in dozens of palaces around the country, passing away in the best possible comfort, with healthcare that peasants could only dream of until the very end. Nope. Not a fucking chance. My gran had to die in hospital this year, surrounded by few family members at a time, away from home and all the little she had left to cherish. I cried for her. But I'm not going to cry over this because the ubiquitous media and their royal lapdogs are telling me I should. Telling me we are grieving. Kindly fuck off.

Football is my life. I was due to go with my nephew this weekend. Those who wanted could have paid due respects at the game. Minutes silence, don the black armbands, get on with the match and with life.

Instead of that, I have to walk into the co-op for bread and milk whilst being serenaded by solemn music, then come out of the shop to see a billboard of her face, telling me once more I should be in a period of mourning.

People are struggling to feed their kids and heat their houses. But next month, once again, we're going to apportion hard earned millions (tens of) to a state funeral. And for what? Is that going to help with people's bills?

As a nation we don't need to grieve, we need to give our priorities a stark recheck.

Well said.

About 1500 people die in the UK every day. Every one of those families will be upset, potentially devastated if a younger member, financially devastated if a wage earner. If you tell me the story of any one of them, I'll acknowledge how difficult it must be for their family, feel sorry for them, but I'm not going to do it because I don't know them and we couldn't function feeling the grief of 1500 families every day. Elizabeth Windsor is no different - I feel sorry for her sons, daughters, grandchildren etc but to the same extent as the other 1499 people and families I don't know.

The idea that she or the rest of them are somehow better than us by birth is obscene and a very slippery slope to some unpleasant times we seen throughout history, especially British.