Discussions here have generally become lazy and boring.Not saying that at all. The point I am making is that I do not believe how you can simply say the manager is at fault when there are many factors, which IMO include:
Players on the decline both physically and mentally
Players not being robots, able to play at peak performance week in week out
Squad depth not that deep, coupled with injuries to key personnel
Only needing one or two off their game to bring the team performance down
I'm not in anyway trying to absolve the manager of any blame, but I strongly believe he is not solely to blame.
I'm not asking you to agree / disagree with my opinions as they are simply my opinion. I feel though that many on here are so set in their beliefs, they cannot accept any other reasoning.
Are you in USA?Discussions here have generally become lazy and boring.
You can pretty much boil 90% of the claims here down to 3 words "Manuel Pelegrini sucks"
Almost any discussion here dissolves into those 3 words. Then a good portion of the rest is just finding ways to justify those 3 words. It's kinda sad really :(
No, by the sound of it he's somewhere beyond the clouds on the planet Zogg..........Are you in USA?
Why would we be playing Dynamo Kiev in Russia?
A poor political insult towards Putin or geographic and political ignorance.
4 vital games in 10 days the club had to "prioritise" and could not risk Vinnie in all four
that is why pellegrini is a crap manager and under pressure we should never be down to bare bones am sorry he's had 3 seasons to sort out the back 4 and every time we press the panic botton and signed a last min players.the strikers we let go in the summer and without replacement and then forgot to add Iheanacho in the champions league squad leaving us with just aguero and bony knowing aguero is only a game away from a injury. the start of last season you could see we was never going to win anything and pellegrini lack of a plan B and holding the line when defending was on show from the start and easy to undo by teams we was a shamble last season and nothing really change even with big money signings only KDB can hold his hands and say he added something to the squad
Just seen On This Day with highlights of the 2-0 win v CFC. Jeez, we played some fuckin' good stuff then!!
He could easily have played Hart - in fact many of us were crying out for it given the rest of the team we were fielding. And knowing that Mangala would likely be available for Wed (as he is), it would not have been unreasonable to play Otamendi also. Take out Caballero and MDM and you pretty much eliminate the causes of all 5 Chelsea goals.
I'm as open minded about our decline as the next fan, but the slant of your post seems to be putting the emphasis of 'fault' on the players as the manager has no control over what they do once they cross the white line when I would beg to differ.
A blip is a blip. Every team has its off days and periods of bad form, but over the last two seasons bad form for us seems to be the rule rather than the exception.
Manuel's been here long enough to make changes to the playing staff who are 'both mentally and physically' on the decline. If this is the case why wasn't this identified and the players replaced?
No-one is saying players are automatons and should be able to play at their peak week in week out and this is why we have squads. Yes ours is decimated by injury, but we have more than enough quality from those who are left to be performing better than we have been and I'm not just talking about since October either.
We have a squad of 25 players (the same as everyone else) that near enough every team in the Premier League would swap with. Other teams have injury concerns with key personnel too, ours may be worst than most at the moment, but what was the excuse for last season's less than inspiring showing? Blips happen, but when it becomes a frequent pattern, at what point do you start to look beyond probably the strongest squad of players in our history?
Again this is why we have a squad as cover for injuries, loss of form, suspensions and fatigue, how that squad is managed is a totally different question.
I know you say you are 'not trying to absolve the manager of any blame', but why isn't the managerial factor included in your 'fault' list. I'm not set in my beliefs, I just call it as I see it as the time for excuses passed a very long time ago and judging by their actions, our owner and his team think the same.
You say I'm not open minded, but in a closed minded way you don't point out how/why? I'm not set in my ways about Manuel, if anything its he who is set in his ways regarding how we should be set up and play irrespective of who we face or which personnel we have available.You claim you are open minded, I don't see that in you. You seem are far too set in your ways re pellers, so nothing I or any other person will post will affect your judgement.
We're on the same side fella, just have differing views.
Anyway, enough of this and let's look forward to tonight's game