Chelsea Thread 2013/14

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Kun Aguero said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
Danamy said:
I hope some of you are right and not shooting your bolt too soon with some of your comments?
Can't think of any returning manager that's done anything other than fail in our league Dan.


Dario Gradi at Crew or Nigel Pearson at Leicester? granted there not in the Premiership but still had a successful spell or is having a successful season. I expect Chelsea to win the league. Pretty easily if truth be told but hopefully he can fuck Mata off along the way.
Our league meaning top flight ie Prem or(old) Div One.
Kendall Allison Keegan Dalglish spring to mind. A few others had reasonable success with their first stints but failed to reignite on their return.
Not sure above Pearson but Dario Gradi never left Crewe.
 
Kun Aguero said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
Danamy said:
I hope some of you are right and not shooting your bolt too soon with some of your comments?
Can't think of any returning manager that's done anything other than fail in our league Dan.

I expect Chelsea to win the league. Pretty easily if truth be told but hopefully he can fuck Mata off along the way.

Throw in a Falcao, Cavani or even a Rooney at the apex of the floating players Chelsea have then they would be in with a strong shout especially as removing Rooney from ManU would have weakened a main rival otherwise I just don't see it unless everyone else blows up in an epic fashion. And definitely not easily. Squad is too unbalanced and Jose just doesn't fancy them which for me pretty much negates any chance they have.

I was pretty much popping open the champers when the transfer window closed and Chelsea did not address the striker issue. If anything they made it worse.
 
The cookie monster said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Maybe he is not so special after all.
Aren't we supposed to be rueing the day he got away or somethin?
Please cheeky go get Jose that's all we ever heard on here
The bellends a busted flush.

Long may it continue pal.
GDB called it right. All we ever heard on here was bring Mourinho to City..Thanks but no thanks..
 
So Jose's said that Oscar is his first choice #10, not Mata.

Obviously his exclusion of Mata isn't football related imo, idk why he would do that.
 
GHoddle said:
So Jose's said that Oscar is his first choice #10, not Mata.

Obviously his exclusion of Mata isn't football related imo, idk why he would do that.

Mourinho's alienation of Mata does seem strange. I could perhaps understand if he was seen as a problematic influence in the dressing room, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I think Oscar is a fantastic talent and great prospect, but Mata is arguably Chelsea's best player. To isolate him like this seems strange, to say the least.
 
Hope our execs are swooping like vultures on the Mata situation.

Class player that I'd love to have here
 
I'm gonna love hearing Mourinho's excuses after they win f*ck all this season.
The man is so in love with himself it's frightening.
I despise the c@*t after he made fun of Mancini in an interview after last year's Champions League match.
But I suppose as long as he's around it takes the headlines away from City and Pellegrini which is great!
He's a dick of the highest degree.

Rant over :)
 
It's still early days right now. Alot of people make some whacky and wonderful predictions after just a few games. I'd like to see where they are come January. It seemed the press knew he was going to leave Mata out before he even set foot in the door. Has he still got a grudge for Spanish players?
 
djimaldblue said:
I'm gonna love hearing Mourinho's excuses after they win f*ck all this season.
The man is so in love with himself it's frightening.
I despise the c@*t after he made fun of Mancini in an interview after last year's Champions League match.
But I suppose as long as he's around it takes the headlines away from City and Pellegrini which is great!
He's a dick of the highest degree.

Rant over :)

It will be funny if they end up with fewer points than last season :)
Benitez must be loving all this.
Some Chelsea fans have jumped in with Mourinho saying that Mata could only get them to 6th and 3rd in two seasons so he is not that good after all.
Somebody countered that on twitter:
Last season Mata played 31 PL games in which chelsea got 69 points (21 wins, 6 draws and 4 defeats).
In the other 7 games when Mata did not play, they could only win 1 and lost 3 games to QPR, West Brom and Southampton while drawing against the likes of Swansea, Fulham and QPR.

That is a pretty damning statistic, just like Bale for Tottenham.
 
Mouriinho says Mata must adapt and that Oscar is his no. 10

What is it that Mata is not doing that he is so keen to see. I am sure there's some rationale behind it, but to my knowledge he hasn't explained what are the deficiencies Mourinho sees in Mata's game.

From the Guardian. Never seen a manager to go so public in his criticism, yet he doesn't quite explain what it is that Mata is not doing. Any ideas?

José Mourinho has warned Juan Mata he will remain on the periphery of the Chelsea first team until he adapts his game to fit the new manager's style, with Oscar considered the side's first-choice No10 for the foreseeable future.

In a wide-ranging critique of his Chelsea side, Mourinho said he was unhappy with their recent style and said the players must adapt to his demands. "I don't like the way Chelsea were playing the last couple of years; the club doesn't like it and we want to change," he said. "We want to play a different style. The past is history – even my past. I'm here like I've just arrived."

Mata, Chelsea's player of the year in each of his two seasons at the club, was an integral member of the side who won the Champions League in 2012 and followed that up with last season's Europa League success, playing 64 times for the London club last term. Yet he has featured only three times to date under the Portuguese and was substituted on each of his two Premier League starts, as he attempts to adapt to a wider role having lost his favoured playmaker berth to Oscar.

The 25-year-old's absence had previously been explained by his involvement in the summer's Confederations Cup and a subsequent minor injury, which had served to disrupt his pre-season preparations. Yet, with tentative interest from Paris Saint-Germain and Manchester United having been knocked back over the summer, Mourinho has now confirmed the player still has work to do if he is to be considered key, with the Spain international expected to start on the bench against Fulham on Saturday as Chelsea attempt to end a four-game winless run.

"The way I'm reading the situation and the reasons why, in this moment, he's not playing so much are things I can speak about with him, but not publicly," Mourinho said. "But he played against Everton from the start and you can analyse his performance. And he came on against Basel when the team were winning 1-0 – not like Demba Ba or Mikel John Obi, who came on to rescue the game –with specific tasks to do.

"It's part of a process with him, too. It is one thing to play with Ramires and Oscar closing down opponents on each side, and Mata as a No10 behind a striker with his clever assists, clever passes and fantastic actions because he has great talent. But it is another thing to adapt to the way we want to play. In this moment, Oscar is my No10 and, if anyone tells me Oscar has not been Chelsea's best player this season, I'd have todisagree. I have to prove to the fans that I am good. Now [Mata] must do the same."

Mata, Oscar and Eden Hazard featured regularly last season as an attacking trident behind a lone forward, and there remains the scope for that trio to be restored. "But only when [Mata] adapts to what we want," Mourinho said. "I'm not ready to ask Oscar to track opposing full-backs. Brazil has more talented players in the No10 position than any other country in the world, and he plays there for the national team, so I want to build with Oscar as my No10. I want the other two players, from the side, to adapt to that reality and learn how to do things they were not ready to do before.

"The players are open to some of the changes, and not so open to others because this is more difficult. If I'm a defender I want to play low block, with no space behind me. If I'm an attacking player I'd prefer to play without a position, without certain responsibilities, and with others behind me to cover so I don't need to worry about [tracking back]. It's about changing mentality. It takes a bit of time. But it won't take five, six, seven years. I promise."
 
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