Chelsea Thread - 2023/24

[FantasyIreland]

I don't presume City to be guilty or innocent. I don't know enough about it.

The assumption of guilt was in your comment.

Why would we not deny the charges if we are confident of no wrongdoing?

As already stated,the difference between how these investigations have been carried out,and reported in the media,is comical,our name has been trashed and yet,contrary to you,Spurs and the rags,and probably more....... there is no clear evidence to suggest we have committed any offence.

This is a witch hunt,pure and simple,the facts make that very transparent.

 

[ASHCFC]

The assumption of guilt was in your comment.

Why would we not deny the charges if we are confident of no wrongdoing?

As already stated,the difference between how these investigations have been carried out,and reported in the media,is comical,our name has been trashed and yet,contrary to you,Spurs and the rags,and probably more....... there is no clear evidence to suggest we have committed any offence.

This is a witch hunt,pure and simple,the facts make that very transparent.

I'm sorry if you or anyone else felt that my post implied that I think City are guilty of UEFA's or the Prem's allegations. That was not my intention.

As I've said here already, I have no idea as I don't know enough about it.

 

[FantasyIreland]

I'm sorry if you or anyone else felt that my post implied that I think City are guilty of UEFA's or the Prem's allegations. That was not my intention.

As I've said here already, I have no idea as I don't know enough about it.

Cool,cheers.

What are your thoughts in respect of of our claims of allegation/charges reporting disparity?

 

[ASHCFC]

Cool,cheers.

What are your thoughts in respect of of our claims of allegation/charges reporting disparity?

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question.

Are you asking me what my feeling is with regards the Prem allegations against City?

 

[FantasyIreland]

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question.

Are you asking me what my feeling is with regards the Prem allegations against City?

Yes,sorry,i didnt word that great.

How do you think the reporting of these allegations/charges between clubs compares?

 

[ASHCFC]

Yes,sorry,i didnt word that great.

How do you think the reporting of these allegations/charges between clubs compares?

Got you!

My immediate thought is that because Chelsea's new owners were proactive in bringing what have been described as minor issues to UEFA's attention, it's all been handled behind closed doors between the two parties, and therefore away from media gaze.

In contrast City have denied any wrongdoing (as is their right if they believe they've done nothing wrong), but equally UEFA believed differently and therefore there's been a comparatively long and uncooperative process that inevitably has been focused upon by the media.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Got you!

My immediate thought is that because Chelsea's new owners were proactive in bringing what have been described as minor issues to UEFA's attention, it's all been handled behind closed doors between the two parties, and therefore away from media gaze.

In contrast City have denied any wrongdoing (as is their right if they believe they've done nothing wrong), but equally UEFA believed differently and therefore there's been a comparatively long and uncooperative process that inevitably has been focused upon by the media.

That's one way of looking at it ;-)

Cheers

 

[hammocity]

Obviously you guys are all comparing this issue to your own ongoing one.

One big difference between us is that our new owners noticed incomplete financial information in historic accounts and reported it immediately to UEFA.

City's stance is, as I understand it, that they've done nothing wrong whatsoever.

Maybe admittance or denial of guilt has a bearing on how a club is treated, just as it does in the English legal system where admittance of guilt generally encourages a more lenient sentence?

I think you may find it’s the tip of the iceberg and your club is trying to deflect bigger anomalies than these. I still can’t get my head around the 1.6b Abramovich “loan” to the club, that was a PIK that should have attracted an amount more than the Rags pay in interest on their debt, not tangible in Chelsea’s case but certainly applied for FFP purposes. We are accused of false accounting for a fraction of the debt Chelsea got away with, it’s absolutely fucking disgraceful the way we are treated.

Chelsea - guilty
Dippers - 50m on a phantom new Stadium - guilty
Rags- guilty and their accounts are in the Caymam Isles, double guilty
Arsenal, Spent shit loads. Dodgy yank owners, assumption of guilt

Let’s see what shit our owners dig up on these clubs in the next few years.

 

[PabZabb]

The assumption of guilt was in your comment.

Why would we not deny the charges if we are confident of no wrongdoing?

As already stated,the difference between how these investigations have been carried out,and reported in the media,is comical,our name has been trashed and yet,contrary to you,Spurs and the rags,and probably more....... there is no clear evidence to suggest we have committed any offence.

This is a witch hunt,pure and simple,the facts make that very transparent.

White money good, brown money bad

It’s actually made me really angry how these FFP irregularities at United and Chelsea have been ‘reported’ in the media in comparison with what we’ve had and continue to have over the years.

The same can be said with the paltry punishments too. F**king hypocrisy and double standards and I hope the club, who I’m sure would agree, are making their feelings known behind closed doors too.

 

[moomba]

what have been described as minor issues

Those pesky "minor" breaches seem to be quite common place. Suspect the size of the fine indicates the issues were a little more serious than that though.