Chelsea Thread - 2023/24

[hammocity]

Your last sentence sums up the Premier League to a T.

You had to highlight to the Premier League what you had done yet they are charging you supposedly.
Add together the 115 charges the Premier League threw at us without even checking what they was for ( length of grass...playing at 3pm on a Saturday...etc) and I'm beginning to think both us and you might get away with this.

The more stuff like this surfaces the more I picture the Premier League as some scared little kid who has just been handed a loaded gun but doesn't know how to fire it.

It's an embarrassing situation that the supposed best League in the world find themselves in.


I have no doubt the start of all this has something to do with teams who play in red who have got together and put heat on the coward who is head of the Premier League.

Yep, it’s like a dog chasing a car, as soon as it catches it the dog then realises there’s no point in the initial chase as it has no where to go. An analogy once quoted to describe North Korea’s pursuit of Nuclear Weapons.

 

[halfcenturyup]

It was uncovered during the sales process and they reported it to UEFA. That’s due diligence. We also don’t know what the specific breaches are. But yeah let the PL do their investigation. Pretty sure Chelsea are actually cooperating since it was self-reported to begin with, so I hope we get a swift conclusion.

They may be cooperating now but wait until there is a four year investigation into all transfer activity over 12 years including requesting information from Abramovic's companies and THEN see how cooperative they are.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Haha. Welcome to our world. Except in our world, we are guilty in the court of public opinion until proven innocent.

 

[M18CTID]

So the premier league are only investigating this because Chelsea highlighted it? So they know absolutely fuck all about the skeletons clubs are hiding in the closet! Seems it’s time to investigate every club if you ask me. Tip of the iceberg this without doubt!

Liam Gallagher had it spot on months ago - you investigate one, you investigate all.

Fact is that City - and now Chelsea - are only in the firing line due to the criminality of that wanker Rui Pinto in the case of the former, and because it was brought to the attention of the football authorities by the club itself in the case of the latter.

Let's actually see the likes of the PL and UEFA actually do some investigating off their own back for a fucking change and conduct a deep dive into the finances of every club.

 

[Bald fraud]

Liam Gallagher had it spot on months ago - you investigate one, you investigate all.

Fact is that City - and now Chelsea - are only in the firing line due to the criminality of that wanker Rui Pinto in the case of the former, and because it was brought to the attention of the football authorities by the club itself in the case of the latter.

Let's actually see the likes of the PL and UEFA actually do some investigating off their own back for a fucking change and do a deep dive into the finances of every club.

Spot on! The terminology that toe rag masters was using yesterday though is very worrying if you ask me!

 

[give it to gordon]

So the premier league are only investigating this because Chelsea highlighted it? So they know absolutely fuck all about the skeletons clubs are hiding in the closet! Seems it’s time to investigate every club if you ask me. Tip of the iceberg this without doubt!

How come the PL having checked Chelsea books did not see the 'mistake' by Chelsea ? Yet the PL through hacked stolen emails come after City.

These two case prove the PL arent doing a good job as it relies on stolen emails and a club telling them about a 'mistake'.

 

[M18CTID]

Spot on! The terminology that toe rag masters was using yesterday though is very worrying if you ask me!

I dunno - I think you can read multiple things into what he said, both positive and negative

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

if this investigation does turn into a points deduction and fine, what impact would that have on their current situation where they need to claw back player fees to bring their profit and loss for financial fair play. Their strategy of buy everyone and hope the resale value of each player stays relatively high seems risky, this could result into some spiralling damage to the club.

 

[give it to gordon]

This whole situation stinks.

Just like any other industry allow the owners to invest what they want. Football has been going for hundreds of years without FFP. Football if it wants a free competition should scrape FFP.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

This whole situation stinks.

Just like any other industry allow the owners to invest what they want. Football has been going for hundreds of years without FFP. Football if it wants a free competition should scrape FFP.

The PL should stop pandering to the redshirt clubs plus others who hold so much power in the scheme of things. The Hateful 8 and their letters foe example.

They are not the sole reason for the financial success enjoyed by the PL, and the twats at the top should be looking to protect the interest of all clubs.

City bring so much interest and income into their coffers and yet they continue with their witchhunt. Biting the hand that feeds to satisfy the jealousy of the entitled ones.

Seeing Masters spouting his shite yesterday was frankly embarrassing, but so revealing.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

I’m not sure if fessing up and blaming it on the previous owner will lead to a much lighter punishment. These are potentially very serious offences - the kind of which our own club has flat out denied - yet Chelsea are admitting they’re guilty by the looks of things. @projectriver explains it far better than I can:

Are West Ham's third party ownership issues with Tevez relevant here? I believe that the new owners reported the "offence" to the authorities but were still responsible for the actions of the previous owners and the issue was not whether the club was responsible but what sanctions were applicable according to PL rules. In that case relegation or a points deduction were not but a fine was. In Chelsea's case the offences are admitted but not yet made public so we simply don't know. In City's case we can only try to to work back from the "rap sheet" to judge what the charges are, but assertions that the PL can impose what sanctions it likes (in the unlikely event of a guilty verdict!) seem wide of the mark?

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

This whole situation stinks.

Just like any other industry allow the owners to invest what they want. Football has been going for hundreds of years without FFP. Football if it wants a free competition should scrape FFP.

I say keep it, City moving to comply with financial fair play after having their fingers burnt in 2014 has helped the club grow ten fold. If it was removed Newcastle could go on a spending spree unparalleled in professional football, it’s starting to have an impact on clubs who have sought to bring City down as well. Keep it in place as it’s a mechanism that ensures we are at the top table of football for the foreseeable future.

 

[give it to gordon]

PL are saying these no charges yet Chelsea have admitted breaking the rules !

 

[tregyblue61]

I would like to know why the new owners waited until after the take over to report this?

Prior to the take over, they knew there was incomplete financial reporting concerning historical transactions between 2012 and 2019 during the Abramovich ownership.

UEFA's case against us was based on 6 hacked emails - 1 of which was 2 spliced together - and they went balls deep on us. UEFA: thank you Chelsea for doing our job, here, we'll settle for €10m. Premier League? Nothing to see here.

The whole think stinks of one huge pile of Rhino dung.

 

[waspish]

This whole situation stinks.

Just like any other industry allow the owners to invest what they want. Football has been going for hundreds of years without FFP. Football if it wants a free competition should scrape FFP.

Yep an owner had to do those dodgy deals because of ffp when the owner had the money to spend what they want!

Just let clubs spend what they want and have what uefa have brought in you can't have a wage bill higher than 70%

 

[ASHCFC]

Liam Gallagher had it spot on months ago - you investigate one, you investigate all.

Fact is that City - and now Chelsea - are only in the firing line due to the criminality of that wanker Rui Pinto in the case of the former, and because it was brought to the attention of the football authorities by the club itself in the case of the latter.

Let's actually see the likes of the PL and UEFA actually do some investigating off their own back for a fucking change and conduct a deep dive into the finances of every club.

Seems unlikely that forensic audits are currently undertaken, doesn't it?

 

[ASHCFC]

PL are saying these no charges yet Chelsea have admitted breaking the rules !

Chelsea's current ownership have reported irregularities found during the purchase process. That's not the same as admitting to breaking the rules.

 

[give it to gordon]

Chelsea's current ownership have reported irregularities found during the purchase process. That's not the same as admitting to breaking the rules at this stage.

I get confused lol but these rules that were broken were UEFA FFP. But you might not have broken PL FFP. like City didnt break any UEFA FFP but might have broken PL FFP.

So we are different you broke UEFA we didnt ! But both clubs are now being investigated by the PL lol.

 

[ASHCFC]

I get confused lol but these rules that were broken were UEFA FFP. But you might not have broken PL FFP. like City didnt break any UEFA FFP but might have broken PL FFP.

So we are different you broke UEFA we didnt ! But both clubs are now being investigated by the PL lol.

I am totally with you on the confusion front!

The reality is that no one knows at this moment the nature of Chelsea's potential breaches, or indeed how a seemingly erratic body such as the PL will deal with things.

 

[cheekybids]

I would like to know why the new owners waited until after the take over to report this?

Prior to the take over, they knew there was incomplete financial reporting concerning historical transactions between 2012 and 2019 during the Abramovich ownership.

UEFA's case against us was based on 6 hacked emails - 1 of which was 2 spliced together - and they went balls deep on us. UEFA: thank you Chelsea for doing our job, here, we'll settle for €10m. Premier League? Nothing to see here.

The whole think stinks of one huge pile of Rhino dung.

The obvious thing would be to apologise but I’m not spending £4b having looked at the books.

Maybe there’s another club where this has occurred?