Chinese Consortium invests $400m in CFG

I doubt very much that we have 75 million "fans" in China. Well not fans in the sense we class them, but if we're using the same criteria that United as a club use when tediously claiming to have 659 million fans worldwide every time a poxy new sponsorship deal is announced then we may well have 75 million people in China who "follow" City in some form or other. Remember that when we were utter dog shit and Sun Jihai was playing for us, hundreds of millions of people in China would tune into our games, just as they did with Everton games when Li Tie signed for them. We have 8.1 million followers on the Chinese social media platform Weibo and United have 8.6 million, yet United claim to have 108 million fans in China. Using those Weibo figures on a pro rata basis, it could be argued that 75 million City fans is actually a conservative estimate so what that City fan is saying on Rag Cafe might not be so daft after all.

I don't know about the numbers, M18, but suspect they are spurious all round. My point is that arguing who has more Chinese plastics than the other displays nitshit thinking. We laugh at their claims, then try to outdo them.
 
You got the wrong end of the stick bud. I never mentioned a city club in south America. That would probably only work if they bought a lower league club begging for investment. I was talking about a similar deal to the Chinese. Media and capital for shares & territorial rights.

I'm not wishing to cause an argument with you mate, but I think it's you that got the wrong end of the stick. My original post was about a South American 'City' franchise not being viable according to Sorriano in his book. You replied saying I was being condescending.
 
I don't know about the numbers, M18, but suspect they are all spurious. My point is that arguing who has more Chinese plastics than the other displays nitshit thinking. We laugh at their claims, then try to outdo them.

Yeah, I agree about the last bit - I said earlier that I don't give a shit about how many fans we have in China (or anywhere else for that matter) and I won't get involved in any dick waving about numbers of fans even if we had more than them. I was just trying to explain how that 75 million figure may have come about (also note my point that many of them are probably "followers" as opposed to "fans") and that any Rags scoffing at it would do well to take their blinkers off.
 
Yeah, I agree about the last bit - I said earlier that I don't give a shit about how many fans we have in China (or anywhere else for that matter) and I won't get involved in any dick waving about numbers of fans even if we had more than them. I was just trying to explain how that 75 million figure may have come about (also note my point that many of them are probably "followers" as opposed to "fans") and that any Rags scoffing at it would do well to take their blinkers off.

Fair enough, mate. I won't engage in any dick waving either but maybe for more, erm, personal reasons ...

:-(
 
Mate, you've got that all wrong. The Chinese President went along to City by mistake, and what he really wanted was a tour of Old Toilet. Said so on the BBC!
I tell you what mate, I never click on any link to Sad Café but last night I made an exception. The knuckle dragging plebs are in the main delusional and are in denial about what's right in front of them. Its like that famous scene in Monty Python where the Black Knight has had his arms and one leg chopped off and reckons 'They're just mere flesh wounds' whilst he's hopping about on his last remaining limb still wanting to carry on the scrap. Yes, ManUre may have the ear of the corrupt officials running UEFA & FIFA but the men who run the planet are our mates and they refuse to acknowledge the magnitude of this deal and what it means in reality.

'It's another ffp dodge', 'Doesn't matter how much money they've got, they'll never be as big as us which is illustrated by the fact that they can't fill the Emptihad', 'If City are worth £2bn, we must be worth £10bn'! The delusion just goes on mate.

To top it all, the use of the word MASSIVE really seems to annoy them for some unbeknown reason. If you're unlucky enough to be within punching range of a Rag, be warned don't say the is a super MASSIVE deal or anything with the word MASSIVE in it for fear of getting lamped! :-)
 
imagine that interview on skysports news.

sky sports news headline's

khaldoon looks a goon in his white arab festoon,vote now would you wear an Arab dress to the match :)
It's quite telling that this interview happened on the international (and fairly unbiased) cnn, rather than any uk media outlet.
It's a shame... From a uk resident point of view... But completely understandable.
 
There was a handful of google news stories on this yesterday morning: there are now over 500.
Jack's just planted that bean. Time to watch it grow over the next few months/years.
 
There was a handful of google news stories on this yesterday morning: there are now over 500.
Jack's just planted that bean. Time to watch it grow over the next few months/years.
This is what I think is the best bit, the football world is slowly realising just how big the deal is, and City just dropped it on a Tuesday morning without any warning. I wonder how its being reported in China itself ?
 
Theres more post on here abt what red café and the rags think, they really are an irrelevance to us now.

Well said bud.

Whilst the posters on RagCaf state there are no City fans in China because they don't see people wearing shirts"

Completely laughable.
I walk around Manchester City Centre most days and I rarely see anyone wearing any club shirts (excluding match days)

I haven't bought a shirt in donkeys years, I only wear them in the gym... So if i was walking around Beijing right now I'm not a city fan? haha....

Weibo/Twitter followers can be bought as well... it's irrelevant to us genuine matchgoing blues.

But I'll say this - in recent years some of the biggest football match TV audience figures for the Asian continent has included Manchester City... with near 1bil. people watching a match and actually seeing City win the match.

Sure they may of not been a fan of City, but watching us how we play, and how we achieve results... They may be thinking over in Asia: Hmm... maybe I will become a City fan.
 
I'm not really sure what relevance our amount of fans we currently have in China has to us brokering a deal that will see us become hugely marketed in China? It seems like when people were mentioning that we've not had many young player come through the academy when we built the new one, to suggest it was a waste of money. The obvious response would surely be "duh, that's why we're spending hundreds of millions to improve these things". If we already had a perfect academy producing tons of great young players, or already were the team of choice in China, then surely all this would be a complete waste of time?
 
How would you feel long term if this led to possibly Premier League/FA matches being exported?

So we'd play our potential league cup semi/final in Beijing?

We watch every round, going to the stadiums in our country, then the club have some agreement which states they play a match in Shangai.

Would cost us shitloads to fly over there :/

Would you still support City if they even moved this club abroad?
The day this club no longer includes Manchester the day I'm out of here.
 
How would you feel long term if this led to possibly Premier League/FA matches being exported?

So we'd play our potential league cup semi/final in Beijing?

We watch every round, going to the stadiums in our country, then the club have some agreement which states they play a match in Shangai.

Would cost us shitloads to fly over there :/

Would you still support City if they even moved this club abroad?
The day this club no longer includes Manchester the day I'm out of here.

Agreed, but I don't think that's at all likely. The club have shown they have the fans in their thoughts with the badge consultation and likely return to a version based on one of the historic designs.
 
The earthquake that shook football on 1st September 2008 was so big, so huge, so all encompassing, that it was simply too huge to be measured by any traditional yardstick.

What everybody initially believed - including let's be honest most if not all City fans - was that we had 'simply' been bought by a very very rich man, who would no doubt use some of his enormous fortune to take the club to previously unimaginable heights of excellence on the pitch, and maybe if we were very lucky, to invest in the clubs infrastructure along the way.

The old elites and their fans scoffed and moaned in equal measure but their underlying belief was, until perhaps even today, "we've seen off this sort of thing before. Blackburn, Chelsea, Dortmund, Forest, Villa. We've been the dominant forces in English and European football for generations. Sure this lot might win a title or two. A few cups even, and you never know, they might even do well in Europe given time, but then, eventually, order will restore itself and they will sink back into the abyss. Sure as eggs is eggs"

They scoffed at the CFA ("not yet produced a regular first teamer" / "FFP dodge"). They really really believed that FFP had sorted these upstarts out. "Show me a sponsor who isn't an Arab" they screamed with not even an attempt to disguise there xenophobia, "that's the measure of a big club" they laughed.

And then they, and us, woke up this morning and saw the football landscape for what it truly is. And what it will continue to be for years, even generations, to come.

Ours.

We dont have an owner who wants the best team. We don't have an owner who wants the best club. We have an owner who wants (and will most definitely get) to completely change the face of the game and how it is run as well as the best team and club.

Today was one more step on that journey and to all those who laughed, and scorned, and ignored, and cheated in order to preserve their bent, immoral, corrupt hold on the game....

This is just the beginning. There is more to come. Your time is over.
 
How would you feel long term if this led to possibly Premier League/FA matches being exported?

So we'd play our potential league cup semi/final in Beijing?

We watch every round, going to the stadiums in our country, then the club have some agreement which states they play a match in Shangai.

Would cost us shitloads to fly over there :/

Would you still support City if they even moved this club abroad?
The day this club no longer includes Manchester the day I'm out of here.
Talk about jumping the gun!
 
Just like china, there are no city fans in Wales either because i dont see anybody in City shirts walking the streets.................

my son plays for our local under 10's team and i would say approx 75% of them wear city shirts/training tops or have a city boots bag or hoodie etc etc.... so whilst we are still "little city" to the outside world, i know that there are many many youngsters who are now following city, which is completely the opposite to when i was a 10 year old when i only saw united, liverpool, spurs and the odd everton shirt.

i really cant wait to see where we will be at in another 30 years!!
 

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