Christmas eve shooting on Merseyside

west didsblue said:
Exactly right.
If the drug trade was legalised and regulated violent crime would plummet once the dealer networks no longer have a market. Obviously strong legislation would need to be in place to stop people on drugs from being a danger to others, and employers would need to be able to get rid of people who turn up stoned. At the end of the day though, for the softer drugs that are most prevalent, they’re a lot less detrimental to people’s health than alcohol.
Careful regulation and tax on drugs at the same levels as alcohol and tobacco would bring in a huge revenue stream to the Treasury allowing services that help with addiction to be funded properly with plenty left over for other things.
It’s a no brainer that just needs to be messaged right to minimise accusations of the government being soft.
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Also, imagine the hours gained, simply by not having police dealing with criminality relating to drugs, and what these hours could actually be used to tackle.
 
Kompany Car said:
There are some reasons why I dont agree with the death sentence, mostly around miscarriages of justice, but in this case its all rather clear.
The cost of keeping that scum banged up is around £47k per year so a 48yr sentence will cost around £2.25m. I can think of better ways to spend £2.25m on good causes.
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In America at least, the cost to the state for a prisoner they execute outweighs that of one who serves a full life term.

Of course, you can cut costs, if that’s what it’s all about by reducing the appeal process. Go back to the days where they’re taken straight from the dock to be hung if you really want to save money.

But the more corners you cut, the more innocent people will die.
 
halfmist said:
If you ever watch these Police Programmes such as 24 hours in Police Custody whether the Police proceed with a prosecution is down to some Clerk in the DPP. The Police have to almost beg their case The Police know who are in these gangs and what they are doing. Instead of fucking about playing to the Queensbury Rules get M15 to plant the evidence in the car and then in a routine stop by the Police or acting on intelligence, there are arms, drugs, or unaccountable cash found in the car. Hey presto they are banged up to rights for a few years and off the streets
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You've not been watching very closely then. The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) is the head of the Crown Prosecution Service which is the department responsible for charging decisions. Those decisions fall to a fully qualified CPS lawyer with extensive knowledge of criminal law not a 'clerk'. By 'M15' I assume you mean MI5. If so, MI5's role is the protection of national security (against threats such as terrorism, espionage and sabotage, the activities of agents of foreign powers etc). That's not to say MI5 isn't involved in any suspicious activity but assisting the boys in blue in their fight against organised crime obviously falls outside their responsibility. Even if the law enforcement agencies were so stupid as to routinely plant evidence - thereby seriously jeopardising the prospects of a successful prosecution, bringing the police into disrepute and further undermining public trust - it would more likely be the Serious and Organised Crime wing of the National Crime Agency.
Still, why let facts and common sense get in the way?
 
Stephen230 said:
In America at least, the cost to the state for a prisoner they execute outweighs that of one who serves a full life term.

Of course, you can cut costs, if that’s what it’s all about by reducing the appeal process. Go back to the days where they’re taken straight from the dock to be hung if you really want to save money.

But the more corners you cut, the more innocent people will die.
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Or if they are going to put low life bastards in jail.
Do like Thailand or Russia.
One big cell fill it full of the twats and let them bum each other to death
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
Or if they are going to put low life bastards in jail.
Do like Thailand or Russia.
One big cell fill it full of the twats and let them bum each other to death
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I am afraid to avoid offence even on here, we have to play it straight by the book, to the Queensbury Rules, give them every chance of getting off, laugh in our faces and all the do Gooders sleep soundly at night with a clear conscience knowing we have done it the British way
 
halfmist said:
I am afraid to avoid offence even on here, we have to play it straight by the book, to the Queensbury Rules, give them every chance of getting off, laugh in our faces and all the do Gooders sleep soundly at night with a clear conscience knowing we have done it the British way
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Which countries CJS would you prefer ours to be modelled on out of interest, given a choice?
 
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