City and Chelsea to Fail Financial Fair Play....

hgblue said:
danburge82 said:
Yep. Football won't be a competition. It will be a heirarchy. No longer will a new City be able to come along and buy a load of players and freshen up the whole top of the league. It'll be too late even for QPR. With there being no competition lower down the league attendances will drop as clubs just pump prices up to even get no where near close to competing. When attendances drop, excitement for the game will drop. Eventually the top teams will want a greater competition and there will be a European Super League and we'll have no trips to Blackburn taking 7000, we'll all be scratching and saving to even go to one or two away games a season in Italy, Spain or wherever witrth tickets for matches starting at £75.

I can see me enjoying football for about ten years and then it becoming a bit of a joke.

I agree with all of that, except the last bit. A European Super League of some sort seems inevitable to me, and I'm looking forward to it. Top quality games week in week out. No cloggers like Stoke or Everton trying to kick the shit out of our vastly superior players, or infecting our posh new stadium with their bitter chants. Can't wait.

A European Super League wont happen.

For such a cross border league to come into existence the UEFA would have to be compliant and then of course the national FA's would have to meekly allow it.

Any player, coach, or club involved in such a rogue venture would never be allowed to play football outside of it.

Scouts from the clubs would be barred from any youth or club involvement.

In short it wont happen and thats what the Champions League is all about.
 
allan harper said:
Manchester City have acquired the biggest shirt sponsor deal in history, this deal is only for champions league matches.


Manchester City fail to qualify for the second round of the champions league.

Spoken like a true blue ;-)
 
I'm pretty sure that the board have this in hand.
I would guess selling the naming rights to the stadium will be part of the on going revenue stream. I think £150million to £200million is around the going rate.
Add to this the inevitable sale of players such as Bridge, Adebayor, RSC, Onouha, Weiss and maybe a couple more which should add another £30+ million to the football generated turnover.

We have a very young squad who will hopefully not only turn into a great side, but City players who love the club.

We have already indicated that the bulk of the spending is now done, and we'll just add a sprinkling of quality each season.

I would guess we have the FFFP rules well in hand.

I would say we are in as strong or stronger situation than both United and Chelsea as we have a much younger squad and have saleable assets that we don't need. Also we don't need as heavy an investment in the playing squad.
 
Watch this vid' of an 'expert' on FFPR, and then wait for the last two lines to see how fucking useless any rules are likely to be as far as City are concerned.

City are the ONLY club capable of creating a web of interconnected business so complex as to create their own market value ;-)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13000543.stm
 
Didsbury Dave said:
allan harper said:
Manchester City have acquired the biggest shirt sponsor deal in history, this deal is only for champions league matches.


Manchester City fail to qualify for the second round of the champions league.

Spoken like a true blue ;-)


Almost!

Manchester City failed to qualify for the FIRST ROUND of the Champions League.

Apparently, though, the cash was front-loaded and is already realised in the accounts, ooops!

And don't get me started on how much we will get to sponsor Jose's camel coat.

Matalan = £12m a year, anybody?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
And don't get me started on how much we will get to sponsor Jose's camel coat.

Matalan = £12m a year, anybody?

pmsl ;-)

*** ducks down and awaits the fan boys with their frothing mouths ***
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Spoken like a true blue ;-)


Almost!

Manchester City failed to qualify for the FIRST ROUND of the Champions League.

Apparently, though, the cash was front-loaded and is already realised in the accounts, ooops!

And don't get me started on how much we will get to sponsor Jose's camel coat.

Matalan = £12m a year, anybody?

We could bill Matalan retrospectively for the season 05-06 when City fans commenced the arrangement, on live TV if I'm not mistaken.

There's a wider idea in here somewhere. Maybe us fans could do our own sponsorship deal.<br /><br />-- Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:32 pm --<br /><br />
blueinsa said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
And don't get me started on how much we will get to sponsor Jose's camel coat.

Matalan = £12m a year, anybody?

pmsl ;-)

*** ducks down and awaits the fan boys with their frothing mouths ***

I can hear the Attack Dogs straining at their leishes all the way from the New Dawn thread..."grrrrrrrr"
 
There is an old accountants joke that you can apply to this quite easily. That is, when asked by his employer "how much profit did we make this year" the response is always "how much would you like it to be?"

Essentially what it means is it doesn't matter what the rules say, creative accounting can make us comply. A little less depreciation here, a little more 'revenue' there (I mean, how hard would it be for the Sheik to set up a shell company for his debt and list the cash flow as revenue?). Good luck forcing him to open his own books UEFA.

If they really wanted to make play 'fair' they would initiate a salary cap. But then you would have to remove all relegation rules and make permanent leagues because all leagues with salary caps go in cycles. One team is on top for a few years, then all their players retire and they fall to the bottom.

It really is a dumb and pointless rule. It's typical socialist command economy stuff. And just like socialism it will have the intention of making things fair, but in the end just help cement the positions of those on top and keep the 'masses' on the bottom.
 
The wage bill will surely be slashed big time next year. Adebayor, Santa Cruz, Bridge, Shauny(?), Bellamy, Jo, Given, Vieira, and Onuoha all look to be on the way out. At a rough guess that must total around 650k/week in wages. I know we'll buy but I doubt there will be too many marquee players coming in (unless Tevez leaves in which case it would just be replacing one wage bill with another). If you swap say Hennessey for Given, Lukaku & Guidetti/Nimely for Adebayor & Jo & Santa Cruz, Coentrão for Bridge, Hazard/Sanchez/Mata (one of) & Weiss for SWP & Bellamy, you're probably looking at a huge saving on wages, enough to sign one big marquee player (ie, Sneijder for the middle) after that and still be saving big money. We also have M. Johnson and Assulin who, if they can find fitness and form, would be like two new signings and save us some transfer money.
 

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