Anthony Kun
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Not worried either way if Im honest, really think this year we will do very well (by our standards)
City & Arsenal and the Champs League Pots
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laserblue
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My concern with the CL draw is that we'll almost certainly get a tough group again. There are two halves to the draw so City and the rags will be in separate halves. So will Chelsea and Arsenal (even if they lose the play off Fenerbahce are set to be disqualified for match fixing anyway) which means that one of them will be in City's half of the draw.
As City can't be in the same group as another English team that leaves only 3 groups we can be drawn in. Real and Barca also have to be in separate halves so one of them will head up another group. Bayern and Dortmund will also be in separate halves of the draw although Dortmund will be in pot 3. Porto and Benfica are both in pot 1 so they will be in separate halves of the draw and it's my hope that City get in one of their groups. PSG are in pot 2 and Napoli are in pot 4 which is a bit scary.
City are in either pot 2 or pot 3. Assuming it's pot 3, which appears more likely, the nightmare scenario would be Barcelona, PSG and Napoli. The most favourable at the moment (before the play offs have been decided) would be something like Benfica, CSKA Moscow and Maribor or Viktoria Plzen.
This splitting of the groups (which is for TV reasons only) is why City got Dortmund as their pot 4 team last season. With few teams left in the pot and Bayern in the same half of the draw as the rags by default City ended up with Dortmund while the rags got Cluj and Chelsea got Nordsjaelland.
As City can't be in the same group as another English team that leaves only 3 groups we can be drawn in. Real and Barca also have to be in separate halves so one of them will head up another group. Bayern and Dortmund will also be in separate halves of the draw although Dortmund will be in pot 3. Porto and Benfica are both in pot 1 so they will be in separate halves of the draw and it's my hope that City get in one of their groups. PSG are in pot 2 and Napoli are in pot 4 which is a bit scary.
City are in either pot 2 or pot 3. Assuming it's pot 3, which appears more likely, the nightmare scenario would be Barcelona, PSG and Napoli. The most favourable at the moment (before the play offs have been decided) would be something like Benfica, CSKA Moscow and Maribor or Viktoria Plzen.
This splitting of the groups (which is for TV reasons only) is why City got Dortmund as their pot 4 team last season. With few teams left in the pot and Bayern in the same half of the draw as the rags by default City ended up with Dortmund while the rags got Cluj and Chelsea got Nordsjaelland.
Re: City & The Arse and the Champs League Pots
Juventus are almost certain to be in pot 2 instead of Lyon with Zenit having a chance of replacing Schalke, that would leave Dortmund as the only team anywhere near our level in Pot 3.
Hardly ill informed nonsense!6one said:
Juventus are almost certain to be in pot 2 instead of Lyon with Zenit having a chance of replacing Schalke, that would leave Dortmund as the only team anywhere near our level in Pot 3.
blackley macca
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Re: City & Arsenal and the Champs League Pots
When is the draw, 29th?
When is the draw, 29th?
Carver
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Re: City & The Arse and the Champs League Pots
They are still in the play off rounds, don't worry, one or two will qualify so that they can surrender to the greatest team in the world TM. If they don't that's another thing for Moyes to complain about.
IOWBlue said:
They are still in the play off rounds, don't worry, one or two will qualify so that they can surrender to the greatest team in the world TM. If they don't that's another thing for Moyes to complain about.
cptaidan88
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Underlined teams are still to play a second leg of their play off but if its in black I think its fairly nailed on. The coloured teams qualification is in doubt in my opinion so have given the co-efficient for both teams next to it. Obviously if the other team qualifies it could affect the Pots, but only in the Milan and Schalke games. Celtic and Bucharest will be in Pot 4 even if they progress.
For us to get to Pot 2 we need both PAOK and PSV to qualify (and Sociedad to see their tie out which looks likely). I dont think there is that much difference between the teams in Pot 2 and 3 though so we could get a tough draw regardless.
My preference, as I'm hoping to go to at least two would be;
Benfica/Barca
Atletico/Marseille/Donetsk
Anderlecht/Plzen/Sociedad/Vienna/Warsaw
I'd be delighted with one of those combinations
raininspain
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This is how it stands:
POT 1
Bayern München
FC Barcelona
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Manchester United
Arsenal (practically through after winning 3-0 away to Fenerbahce)
FC Porto
Benfica
POT 2
Atlético Madrid
Shakhtar Donetsk
AC Milan (should manage to beat PSV at home after drawing 1-1 away)
Schalke 04* (in danger of going out to PAOK Salónika)
Olympique Marseille
CSKA Moscow
Paris Saint-Germain
Juventus
POT 3
Zenit St.Petersburg (practically through after winning 4-1 away to Paços)
Manchester City
Ajax
Borussia Dortmund
FC Basel (should go through after winning 4-2 away to Ludogorets)
Olympiakos Piraeus
Galatasaray
Bayer Leverkusen
POT 4
FC Kobenhavn
Napoli
Anderlecht
Celtic* (in danger of going out to Shakhtyor Karaganda)
Steaua Bucuresti* (in danger of going out to Legia Warsaw)
Viktoria Plzen (should go through against Maribor after winning 3-1 at home)
Real Sociedad (should go through after winning 2-0 away to Olympique Lyon)
Austria Wien (should go through after winning 2-0 away to Dinamo Zagreb)
Possible Changes to the Pots*
If Schalke lose to PAOK Salónika, then PAOK would go into Pot 4 and every team from Zenit St. Petersburg would move up one place).
If Celtic fail to overcome the 2 goal deficit, then Shakhtyor Karaganda would move into Pot 4).
If Steaua Bucuresti lose to Legia Warsaw, then Legia would move into Pot 4)
POT 1
Bayern München
FC Barcelona
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Manchester United
Arsenal (practically through after winning 3-0 away to Fenerbahce)
FC Porto
Benfica
POT 2
Atlético Madrid
Shakhtar Donetsk
AC Milan (should manage to beat PSV at home after drawing 1-1 away)
Schalke 04* (in danger of going out to PAOK Salónika)
Olympique Marseille
CSKA Moscow
Paris Saint-Germain
Juventus
POT 3
Zenit St.Petersburg (practically through after winning 4-1 away to Paços)
Manchester City
Ajax
Borussia Dortmund
FC Basel (should go through after winning 4-2 away to Ludogorets)
Olympiakos Piraeus
Galatasaray
Bayer Leverkusen
POT 4
FC Kobenhavn
Napoli
Anderlecht
Celtic* (in danger of going out to Shakhtyor Karaganda)
Steaua Bucuresti* (in danger of going out to Legia Warsaw)
Viktoria Plzen (should go through against Maribor after winning 3-1 at home)
Real Sociedad (should go through after winning 2-0 away to Olympique Lyon)
Austria Wien (should go through after winning 2-0 away to Dinamo Zagreb)
Possible Changes to the Pots*
If Schalke lose to PAOK Salónika, then PAOK would go into Pot 4 and every team from Zenit St. Petersburg would move up one place).
If Celtic fail to overcome the 2 goal deficit, then Shakhtyor Karaganda would move into Pot 4).
If Steaua Bucuresti lose to Legia Warsaw, then Legia would move into Pot 4)
BoyBlue_1985
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I wouldn't worry about this anymorePam said:
Rammyblues
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Excellent work. For me Pot 2 and pot 4 are going to be our main rivals looking at that list up there subject to the tv companies, and warmed balls the worst it could be would be PSG and Napoli again, plus Barca or RM. Lets keep away from the Germans.