City cleared of any wrongdoing in Garre case - no transfer ban expected

[gh_mcfc]

This is all a load of bollox. These rules are designed

• to protect vunerable kids from poor countries being whisked off to unscrupulous clubs and companies who may or may not be legit. They offer them the world and leave them destitute or rip them off.

• to protect clubs in poorer counties who have developed the player.

These things should be considered on a case by case , club by club basis.

• In the first instance FIFA should have to approve any deal and satisfy themselves that there is no exploitation of the child and family taking place (Okay maybe not FIFA - a responsible organisation instead). The purchasing club need to ensure a support process is in place should it all go tits up.

• Secondly a fair and outcome based fee needs to be put in place to adequately compensate the club - this is important wealthy clubs and leagues should not take the piss.

If the purchasing club fails in its duty of care then and only then should they be sanctioned.

in this case how can we be accused of trafficking or exploitation. We are offering the player a shed load of cash he would otherwise not have had, An education programme, a home and chance to play for one of Europes best team. I dont know his family circumstances but i suspect the will be a dam sight better off now even if the lad does not make it.

Trafficking and exploitation my arse.... can I have a job at fifa please

 

[Centurions]

Incidentally, is he any good?

After going through all 9 pages I was wondering that, he's a forward and scores the first goal in the video below (wearing number 7):

 

[blueparrot]

No action being taken by fifa according to Sky.

 

[abellwillring]

Velez apparently intend to try and push this through to the CAS but obviously they have no leg to stand on. If I had to guess, even though they couldn't do so before, there will probably be some sort of fee agreed upon and provided to Velez as a token of good will and to just get this to go away.

 

[Andrew___K]

Velez apparently intend to try and push this through to the CAS but obviously they have no leg to stand on.

The transfer activity is regulated by FIFA's rules.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/aff...e_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf
The problem that I see now is that CAS is independent from FIFA's decisions, and FIFA's rules are not very clear for Garre's case:
"transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18.
The following three exceptions to this rule apply:
<...>
a) <...>
b) The transfer takes place within the territory of the European Union (EU) or European Economic Area (EEA) and the player is aged between 16 and 18. In this case, the new club must fulfil the following minimum obligations:
i) It shall provide the player with an adequate football education and/or training in line with the highest national standards.
ii) It shall guarantee the player an academic and/or school and/or vocational education and/or training, in addition to his football education and/or training, which will allow the player to pursue
a career other than football should he cease playing professional football.
iii) It shall make all necessary arrangements to ensure that the player is looked after in the best possible way (optimum living standards with a host family or in club accommodation, appointment of a mentor at the club, etc.).
iv) It shall, on registration of such a player, provide the relevant association with proof that it is complying with the aforementioned obligations;
<...>"
I don't see any mention of citizenship, passports etc. So CAS may have some juridical ground to decide that the transfer doesn't fall into "EU internal transfers" category, and City have breached FIFA's rules (with FIFA's approval, I know it sounds absurd). Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[aguero93:20]

The transfer activity is regulated by FIFA's rules.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/aff...e_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf
The problem that I see now is that CAS is independent from FIFA's decisions, and FIFA's rules are not very clear for Garre's case:
"transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18.
The following three exceptions to this rule apply:
<...>
a) <...>
b) The transfer takes place within the territory of the European Union (EU) or European Economic Area (EEA) and the player is aged between 16 and 18. In this case, the new club must fulfil the following minimum obligations:
i) It shall provide the player with an adequate football education and/or training in line with the highest national standards.
ii) It shall guarantee the player an academic and/or school and/or vocational education and/or training, in addition to his football education and/or training, which will allow the player to pursue
a career other than football should he cease playing professional football.
iii) It shall make all necessary arrangements to ensure that the player is looked after in the best possible way (optimum living standards with a host family or in club accommodation, appointment of a mentor at the club, etc.).
iv) It shall, on registration of such a player, provide the relevant association with proof that it is complying with the aforementioned obligations;
<...>"
I don't see any mention of citizenship, passports etc. So CAS may have some juridical ground to decide that the transfer doesn't fall into "EU internal transfers" category, and City have breached FIFA's rules (with FIFA's approval, I know it sounds absurd). Correct me if I'm wrong.

That's easy mate, his Dad got a job in Italy and he had to move, we signed him after they moved there.

 

[Blue Mist]

But still no one has answered the important question. Why does this keep getting re-hashed by the media ? Is it because we
a) Don't play in red
b) Don't have Gill in a position of power to support us
c) The media are all c*nts.

Twice this has reared its ugly head. It was proved a non story the first time around BUT all the rags, dippers, arse now parrot it as though it was true or that we have found a loophole as opposed to doing nothing wrong in the first place.

 

[Tam]

But still no one has answered the important question. Why does this keep getting re-hashed by the media ? Is it because we
a) Don't play in red
b) Don't have Gill in a position of power to support us
c) The media are all c*nts.

Yes

 

[manimanc]

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/man-city-possible-fifa-rule-breach-fingers-crossed.422063/
Fingers crossed? Fingers fuckin crossed? And they call us bitters apparently.

 

[aguero93:20]

The transfer activity is regulated by FIFA's rules.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/aff...e_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf
The problem that I see now is that CAS is independent from FIFA's decisions, and FIFA's rules are not very clear for Garre's case:
"transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18.
The following three exceptions to this rule apply:
<...>
a) <...>
b) The transfer takes place within the territory of the European Union (EU) or European Economic Area (EEA) and the player is aged between 16 and 18. In this case, the new club must fulfil the following minimum obligations:
i) It shall provide the player with an adequate football education and/or training in line with the highest national standards.
ii) It shall guarantee the player an academic and/or school and/or vocational education and/or training, in addition to his football education and/or training, which will allow the player to pursue
a career other than football should he cease playing professional football.
iii) It shall make all necessary arrangements to ensure that the player is looked after in the best possible way (optimum living standards with a host family or in club accommodation, appointment of a mentor at the club, etc.).
iv) It shall, on registration of such a player, provide the relevant association with proof that it is complying with the aforementioned obligations;
<...>"
I don't see any mention of citizenship, passports etc. So CAS may have some juridical ground to decide that the transfer doesn't fall into "EU internal transfers" category, and City have breached FIFA's rules (with FIFA's approval, I know it sounds absurd). Correct me if I'm wrong.

https://translate.google.ie/transla...rudence.tas-cas.org/Shared Documents/2862.pdf