City EDS and Pep

[BigBluey]

I think Pep is going to have his hands full integrating new players into the side and formulating new tactics.

I believe he will only then look more closely at promoting players from the EDS or youth teams.

I think we should not expect miracles from Pep. It's going to take time for his ideas to permutate through the club.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I was impressed with Humphries little cameo at right back against the rags U 21's the other night. Also I do believe Tosin has everything in his locker to make it. He has a physical presence, pace and is comfortable with the ball. He has his moments when he is too casual or drops concentration, but he just turned 18 around October, so that is understandable. The other English player I like is Kean Bryan. I think he can be a very good defensive midfielder in time.

I think Kean Bryan would have stopped the 2nd Spurs goal yesterday.

I think you arte right re Tosin. Could become everything we would want in a centre back, but it will be his head which decides it.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I know Pep doesn't mind trying kids out as he's shown at Barca and Bayern, but should we be more concerned about it?

According to daily fail the U16s are stalling on contracts. Not sure how much faith to put in it, but surely would have to be given some consideration...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-bring-likes-Paul-Pogba-Sergio-Busquets.html

I got slaughtered on here in the thread re Utd's academy, by a whole bunch of people, for predicting this would happen. But I don't think it will be down to who we sign, I think it will be down to whether they think Pep will act like Pellegrini, who imo is a disaster for our academy.

It is obvious it WILL happen if kids don't get at least a sniff of our first team. Others are going to try & poach them. Utd will make a song & dance about revamping their academy & try to pinch some. They have been making a big thing about being the club who plays kids in the team & people should know how they work. Spurs etc will also be after our kids.

Luckily we have got Pep. Hopefully he will talk it round & we will only lose one or two.

Another season of Pellegrini could have set us back years. Thank fuck he is going.

 

[twosips]

He definitely sticks out as a bit ungainly and I've seen reference to him making stupid mistakes cost in us goals in more than one @twosips match report.

But I've also seen games when He's been great. Against the rags last week he read and broke up a lot of counterattacks.

I've seen Tosin make a few mistakes this season, yet I still think he's a great prospect. There's just something about him that suggests that if it clicks he could be a truly excellent defender. It's concentration. When we have our backs to the wall, like we did at Chelsea earlier on in the season, he can be magnificent. It's in the ones where we're strolling that he needs to maintain composure. Tbh his mistakes come from trying to dribble out usually too. When that's reigned in he'll be fine.

I got slaughtered on here in the thread re Utd's academy, by a whole bunch of people, for predicting this would happen. But I don't think it will be down to who we sign, I think it will be down to whether they think Pep will act like Pellegrini, who imo is a disaster for our academy.

It is obvious it WILL happen if kids don't get at least a sniff of our first team. Others are going to try & poach them. Utd will make a song & dance about revamping their academy & try to pinch some. They have been making a big thing about being the club who plays kids in the team & people should know how they work. Spurs etc will also be after our kids.

Luckily we have got Pep. Hopefully he will talk it round & we will only lose one or two.

Another season of Pellegrini could have set us back years. Thank fuck he is going.

You're right too, and I know the Daily Mail article is based in truth unfortunately as well. Some of the u16s aren't seemingly signing contracts and they're stalling. I know some idiots will go 'well fuck em then, they're not good enough for City' or 'if they're good enough and believe in themselves they'll do it so they must be mentally weak'.....that is of course utter fucking nonsense. It's about creating an environment that at least leads these youngsters to feel that they will one day get a chance. The perception is that at the moment we're not good at it, and that, in my humble opinion, is down to Pellegrini - no one else...Just Pellegrini entirely. The club though are acutely aware of the potential 'problem' we have on our hands here and they will look to sort it. There is no point in having some of the most outrageously talented young players in the country if they fuck off at 16, and we do have some insanely good prospects. We don't just want to be a school for these kids to get a great education without reaping the benefits ourselves.

I think its just about salvageable thankfully, but like Nev i'm hugely glad MP is fucking off as he's in real danger of ruining all the good work put in by others.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I've seen Tosin make a few mistakes this season, yet I still think he's a great prospect. There's just something about him that suggests that if it clicks he could be a truly excellent defender. It's concentration. When we have our backs to the wall, like we did at Chelsea earlier on in the season, he can be magnificent. It's in the ones where we're strolling that he needs to maintain composure. Tbh his mistakes come from trying to dribble out usually too. When that's reigned in he'll be fine.



You're right too, and I know the Daily Mail article is based in truth unfortunately as well. Some of the u16s aren't seemingly signing contracts and they're stalling. I know some idiots will go 'well fuck em then, they're not good enough for City' or 'if they're good enough and believe in themselves they'll do it so they must be mentally weak'.....that is of course utter fucking nonsense. It's about creating an environment that at least leads these youngsters to feel that they will one day get a chance. The perception is that at the moment we're not good at it, and that, in my humble opinion, is down to Pellegrini - no one else...Just Pellegrini entirely. The club though are acutely aware of the potential 'problem' we have on our hands here and they will look to sort it. There is no point in having some of the most outrageously talented young players in the country if they fuck off at 16, and we do have some insanely good prospects. We don't just want to be a school for these kids to get a great education without reaping the benefits ourselves.

I think its just about salvageable thankfully, but like Nev i'm hugely glad MP is fucking off as he's in real danger of ruining all the good work put in by others.

The fact it's been announced may have rescued the situation in a lot of cases, rater than them being worried about spending as the Mail suggests.

Personally if I was a parent of a City kid, I'd have no problem walking out on Pellegrini, but knowing Pep is arriving, I would seriously want to be around for that.

 

[FantasyIreland]

While Pellegrini hasnt helped put any young minds at rest regarding their future ambitions at our club,the appointment of Davies can hardly be described as one of genius,i mean,in reality,which of our kids is going to be motivated by knowing he will be their last stop prior to the first team? Or have i got it wrong/ being far too harsh?

 

[WRicko]

What is it with people saying the manger is picking the wrong EDS lads One its surely not just his choice and its not just about ability but position and he is an expert. He has also picked the best players according to most but others seem to think he is doing it based on nationality or price tag which is odd because. Using the former he would pick English using the later he would pick foreign surely or non at all and just the senior players. Now people have decided they wont even name who he should or should not pick and wont give a justification. I have never seen another forum where people take a daily mail Devanti Cole type conspiracy against certain players. The main problem seems to be around Barker and perhaps Roberts not getting games. Now Roberts I get but he is on loan now getting games better for his development. From what many have said the like of Celina are miles better than Barker not that I watch the EDS so no bias or problem there.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I've seen Tosin make a few mistakes this season, yet I still think he's a great prospect. There's just something about him that suggests that if it clicks he could be a truly excellent defender. It's concentration. When we have our backs to the wall, like we did at Chelsea earlier on in the season, he can be magnificent. It's in the ones where we're strolling that he needs to maintain composure. Tbh his mistakes come from trying to dribble out usually too. When that's reigned in he'll be fine.



You're right too, and I know the Daily Mail article is based in truth unfortunately as well. Some of the u16s aren't seemingly signing contracts and they're stalling. I know some idiots will go 'well fuck em then, they're not good enough for City' or 'if they're good enough and believe in themselves they'll do it so they must be mentally weak'.....that is of course utter fucking nonsense. It's about creating an environment that at least leads these youngsters to feel that they will one day get a chance. The perception is that at the moment we're not good at it, and that, in my humble opinion, is down to Pellegrini - no one else...Just Pellegrini entirely. The club though are acutely aware of the potential 'problem' we have on our hands here and they will look to sort it. There is no point in having some of the most outrageously talented young players in the country if they fuck off at 16, and we do have some insanely good prospects. We don't just want to be a school for these kids to get a great education without reaping the benefits ourselves.

I think its just about salvageable thankfully, but like Nev i'm hugely glad MP is fucking off as he's in real danger of ruining all the good work put in by others.

I’m surprised you’re so clear cut in thinking toward Pellers. He has done a bit more this year than he did in the last 2 IMO.I don’t have any stats but if you assume Nacho and Roberts are EDS lads then this must be one of the best seasons for playing kids in the last 10 years (multiple cup games helps). And of those that we have released over his 3 years at the club none look like massive losses but that said some are having decent careers (Gudietti played against Barcelona last night).
However I do agree that there have been many missed opportunities. The number of times we have been comfortably leading games with kids on the bench and they have not come on is disappointing.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I know Pep doesn't mind trying kids out as he's shown at Barca and Bayern, but should we be more concerned about it?

According to daily fail the U16s are stalling on contracts. Not sure how much faith to put in it, but surely would have to be given some consideration...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-bring-likes-Paul-Pogba-Sergio-Busquets.html

Five of the eleven U16s offered scholarships have not signed as they fear there is no room for progression at City. espn].

hopefully when pep comes in he can change that

 

[cleavers]

Injuries aside, our bench make up since the announcement of Pep coming has been interesting and although not many have made it on to the pitch, they are now making the bench.

Has he had a word perhaps?

No, we just don't have anyone else fit.