City EDS and Pep

[Maldeika]

I think Pep is going to have his hands full integrating new players into the side and formulating new tactics.

I believe he will only then look more closely at promoting players from the EDS or youth teams.

I think we should not expect miracles from Pep. It's going to take time for his ideas to permutate through the club.

This. He did not integrate any of the academy players at Bayern either. Not even Can or Höjbjerg. Yes, he uses them in training sessions etc. - but the only young players he integrated were Bernat and now Kimmich and Coman who already played for Valencia or Red Bull Leipzig. But they do not have clear starting spots either as the established players are still a lot better.

 

[domalino]

This. He did not integrate any of the academy players at Bayern either. Not even Can or Höjbjerg. Yes, he uses them in training sessions etc. - but the only young players he integrated were Bernat and now Kimmich who already played for Valencia or Red Bull Leipzig.

That's because your academy isn't very good at the moment.

We like our youth development players in Germany and we have our fair share - Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Badstuber - homegrown players who fans adore. Pep will always look for in-house youngsters in order to realise his philosophy of the game, but our problem is at the moment we don't have six youth team players who are good enough to make the move up. In fact we only have 2 right now. We need to improve what we are doing so those players emerge.

- Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 2014
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Another Pep Confidential quote -

"However, so far this generation of youth players is showing no signs of being exceptional. Hermann Gerland, who took over the clubs youth teams in 1990 and has a 6th sense for spotting talent, is not optimistic about the short term potential"
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[I'm no cynic but...]

According to the despicable Daily Fail, it would seem like no-one will be promoted from the academy and that a batch of our U16s are stalling on signing contracts because the arrival of Pep will mean a huge spending spree and that the kids will get pushed into obscurity. There would have been some credibility in the story if names had been mentioned, but not surprisingly there were none.

 

[the plasterer]

Angelino and denayer will make it under pep, young Diaz, in the under 18s will get his chance also I reckon

 

[tiggsywiggsywoo]

I reckon he'll pick a hood part of the squad from the EDS. Most of the players that are now underperforming must know this. The choice as been roll your sleeves up and get stuck in, or just take the money and fuck it. The latter fits with the results we've seen lately.

 

[MC ID]

Pep will give them more of a chance certainly, Pellers has been fucking shit for the kids while he's been around, it's taken a huge injury crisis to get them on the bench - imagine how much better our situation would be right now if the likes of Celina, Barker et al had a bit more time under their belt and not being thrown at the deep end like sacrifices.

The u16 news doesn't surprise me, the step up at our club is harder than most and combine to that we're not giving them opportunities - seeing Spurs giving kids a go won't help.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

According to the despicable Daily Fail, it would seem like no-one will be promoted from the academy and that a batch of our U16s are stalling on signing contracts because the arrival of Pep will mean a huge spending spree and that the kids will get pushed into obscurity. There would have been some credibility in the story if names had been mentioned, but not surprisingly there were none.

From what I've read, the story appears to be unfortunately accurate. Maybe a good thing it's been highlighted though, as it may force our hand to get things right.

 

[This and only this]

seeing Spurs giving kids a go won't help

this must be a huge part of it. Right now both the Arse and Spuds are showing a lot of faith in young 19-22 y.o. players. The positives youth bring are energy, fight and optimism, things those above us in the table show plenty of.

 

[taleofbluehalves]

Surely the club will push hard to get the best of them signed up? They'll be a natural progression as some EDS players will move on, U18s move up etc.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I've seen Tosin make a few mistakes this season, yet I still think he's a great prospect. There's just something about him that suggests that if it clicks he could be a truly excellent defender. It's concentration. When we have our backs to the wall, like we did at Chelsea earlier on in the season, he can be magnificent. It's in the ones where we're strolling that he needs to maintain composure. Tbh his mistakes come from trying to dribble out usually too. When that's reigned in he'll be fine.



You're right too, and I know the Daily Mail article is based in truth unfortunately as well. Some of the u16s aren't seemingly signing contracts and they're stalling. I know some idiots will go 'well fuck em then, they're not good enough for City' or 'if they're good enough and believe in themselves they'll do it so they must be mentally weak'.....that is of course utter fucking nonsense. It's about creating an environment that at least leads these youngsters to feel that they will one day get a chance. The perception is that at the moment we're not good at it, and that, in my humble opinion, is down to Pellegrini - no one else...Just Pellegrini entirely. The club though are acutely aware of the potential 'problem' we have on our hands here and they will look to sort it. There is no point in having some of the most outrageously talented young players in the country if they fuck off at 16, and we do have some insanely good prospects. We don't just want to be a school for these kids to get a great education without reaping the benefits ourselves.

I think its just about salvageable thankfully, but like Nev i'm hugely glad MP is fucking off as he's in real danger of ruining all the good work put in by others.

How can it be just down to pellegrini when we have a Director of Football sitting above him?