City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Re: City & FFP (continued)

xenon_ said:
We've come out of this good anyway. FFP works in City's favour. I wouldn't be surprised if our owners are secretly happy with the whole situation and are just navigating accordingly until the glass ceiling is fully complete. This whole saga is like fucking theatre haha

FFP may be horrible for football. It may prevent anyone else ever having a dream come true, like City. But make no mistake, from a business perspective, our owners must be very content that no one else will be able to replicate what they've done. We are in the cartel, pretty-much, and the door is being shut right behind us. We're sorted for life.

Sad day for football, good day for City. And we will carry on marching and eventually, probably, become just another evil empire like our Red counterparts. T'is a shame, but fuck it, it is what it is.



absofuckinglutely agree 100%
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

There is the big 'but" though .
We are still awaiting the DuPont challenge , and we are still to see if PSG are determined to disregard FFP and take uefa head on as it appears that is what they are determined to do. Either or both of these could see the whole thing thrown out or at the very least changed fundamentally.
Presumably there will be a strategy in place for this eventuality, although any change would almost certainly benefit City.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

xenon_ said:
We've come out of this good anyway. FFP works in City's favour. I wouldn't be surprised if our owners are secretly happy with the whole situation and are just navigating accordingly until the glass ceiling is fully complete. This whole saga is like fucking theatre haha

FFP may be horrible for football. It may prevent anyone else ever having a dream come true, like City. But make no mistake, from a business perspective, our owners must be very content that no one else will be able to replicate what they've done. We are in the cartel, pretty-much, and the door is being shut right behind us. We're sorted for life.

Sad day for football, good day for City. And we will carry on marching and eventually, probably, become just another evil empire like our Red counterparts. T'is a shame, but fuck it, it is what it is.
Very good point regarding our view of the situation now we have, all but, overcome it. It must piss off the likes of Arsenal & Co that they're now part of a stifling ruling, orchestrated by themselves, that now may worry them in the future, but likely not City.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Regarding PSG, their biggest problem has been their wage bill which has had to include the massive tax quota that France imposes on the rich earners.
If the owners had bought Monaco instead or perhaps decided that they would be based in Monaco would this have changed their FFP position?

Incidentally, what are the rules for allowing a Club into a League outside its National border?

Imagine the confusion if a Russian Club decided to base themselves in Cyprus where many of the Russian offshore profits are made because of advantageous tax rules.
Perhaps they currently must play their home games within their National boundary or perhaps I misunderstand the personal tax advantages of Monaco cf France.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Seems to me like some City fans are still wondering what we have done wrong? FFP is the tip of a bigger iceberg !

Simple answer is we have done nothing wrong. Our investors saw an opportunity through City to achieve prominence of the Etihad brand.

They had all the cash in the world and could literally have chosen any club, but they chose our club.

If City supporters had deserted the club, they would not be interested. Our support when the chips were down had a massive effect on their decision to choose City and compete with our rag neighbours.

So big up City fans, we earned this investment.

FFP is the tip of an iceberg whereby the European establishment including English clubs are increasingly freezing City out of fair trade when it comes to buying and selling players. That is a worrying prospect now and moving forward. And I find it alarming that these clubs are more willing to trade with likes of Chelski Arse, Dipperspool and Rags than with ourselves.

If this sounds like bollocks to you, ask why Mangala's price has doubled since January when he is due out of contract anyway???
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

East15East said:
Seems to me like some City fans are still wondering what we have done wrong? FFP is the tip of a bigger iceberg !

Simple answer is we have done nothing wrong. Our investors saw an opportunity through City to achieve prominence of the Etihad brand.

They had all the cash in the world and could literally have chosen any club, but they chose our club.

If City supporters had deserted the club, they would not be interested. Our support when the chips were down had a massive effect on their decision to choose City and compete with our rag neighbours.

So big up City fans, we earned this investment.

FFP is the tip of an iceberg whereby the European establishment including English clubs are increasingly freezing City out of fair trade when it comes to buying and selling players. That is a worrying prospect now and moving forward. And I find it alarming that these clubs are more willing to trade with likes of Chelski Arse, Dipperspool and Rags than with ourselves.

If this sounds like bollocks to you, ask why Mangala's price has doubled since January when he is due out of contract anyway???

It is Fernando who was out of contract not Mangala.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Ray78 said:
East15East said:
Seems to me like some City fans are still wondering what we have done wrong? FFP is the tip of a bigger iceberg !

Simple answer is we have done nothing wrong. Our investors saw an opportunity through City to achieve prominence of the Etihad brand.

They had all the cash in the world and could literally have chosen any club, but they chose our club.

If City supporters had deserted the club, they would not be interested. Our support when the chips were down had a massive effect on their decision to choose City and compete with our rag neighbours.

So big up City fans, we earned this investment.

FFP is the tip of an iceberg whereby the European establishment including English clubs are increasingly freezing City out of fair trade when it comes to buying and selling players. That is a worrying prospect now and moving forward. And I find it alarming that these clubs are more willing to trade with likes of Chelski Arse, Dipperspool and Rags than with ourselves.

If this sounds like bollocks to you, ask why Mangala's price has doubled since January when he is due out of contract anyway???

It is Fernando who was out of contract not Mangala.
Correct and it's to promote Abu Dhabi itself not just Etihad.
As for the bolded part I have no idea what you're talking about, it just sounds like paranoid crap. Stop smoking weed, it's affecting your judgement.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

SilverFox2 said:
Regarding PSG, their biggest problem has been their wage bill which has had to include the massive tax quota that France imposes on the rich earners.
If the owners had bought Monaco instead or perhaps decided that they would be based in Monaco would this have changed their FFP position?

Incidentally, what are the rules for allowing a Club into a League outside its National border?

Imagine the confusion if a Russian Club decided to base themselves in Cyprus where many of the Russian offshore profits are made because of advantageous tax rules.
Perhaps they currently must play their home games within their National boundary or perhaps I misunderstand the personal tax advantages of Monaco cf France.


Incidentally, what are the rules for allowing a Club into a League outside its National border?

Ask Cardiff and Swansea.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

denislawsbackheel said:
SilverFox2 said:
Regarding PSG, their biggest problem has been their wage bill which has had to include the massive tax quota that France imposes on the rich earners.
If the owners had bought Monaco instead or perhaps decided that they would be based in Monaco would this have changed their FFP position?

Incidentally, what are the rules for allowing a Club into a League outside its National border?

Imagine the confusion if a Russian Club decided to base themselves in Cyprus where many of the Russian offshore profits are made because of advantageous tax rules.
Perhaps they currently must play their home games within their National boundary or perhaps I misunderstand the personal tax advantages of Monaco cf France.


Incidentally, what are the rules for allowing a Club into a League outside its National border?

Ask Cardiff and Swansea.
Or Rangers or Celtic...


only in their dreams.
 

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