City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

You saying non of the top clubs could of swayed him. Its rather the top clubs playing the weight and see game. Bet their sorry now.
Yes I’m saying the top clubs could not sway him. Yes the top clubs were after him.

Mino is nobody’s fool and convinced Haaland that a finishing school at Dortmund would be the best option for his career and Alf agreed. None quite expected the success to be quite so quick.

All the clubs are as sorry now as they were when they originally got knocked back on signing him when he decided to go to Dortmund.

You speak of what you know little if you think that Dortmund pulled off some master stroke in signing Haaland as if he was available to Madrid or City or United. They were never an option. Mino didn’t want the “big” move 15 months ago.
 
Yes I’m saying the top clubs could not sway him. Yes the top clubs were after him.

Mino is nobody’s fool and convinced Haaland that a finishing school at Dortmund would be the best option for his career and Alf agreed. None quite expected the success to be quite so quick.

All the clubs are as sorry now as they were when they originally got knocked back on signing him when he decided to go to Dortmund.

You speak of what you know little if you think that Dortmund pulled off some master stroke in signing Haaland as if he was available to Madrid or City or United. They were never an option. Mino didn’t want the “big” move 15 months ago.
But, but, doesn't he just force his clients to move where he can make the most money?

:-)
 
Yes I’m saying the top clubs could not sway him. Yes the top clubs were after him.

Mino is nobody’s fool and convinced Haaland that a finishing school at Dortmund would be the best option for his career and Alf agreed. None quite expected the success to be quite so quick.

All the clubs are as sorry now as they were when they originally got knocked back on signing him when he decided to go to Dortmund.

You speak of what you know little if you think that Dortmund pulled off some master stroke in signing Haaland as if he was available to Madrid or City or United. They were never an option. Mino didn’t want the “big” move 15 months ago
so if say Madrid offer Mino 30-40 mill for his client and he says no and goes to Dortmund 20 million on a 4 year contract. The only reason he goes Dortmund is because that's the best offer on the table. Agents don't care about anything but the best deal available at the time.
 
so if say Madrid offer Mino 30-40 mill for his client and he says no and goes to Dortmund 20 million on a 4 year contract. The only reason he goes Dortmund is because that's the best offer on the table. Agents don't care about anything but the best deal available at the time.
I’ve no idea what the question is and what the statement is supposed to be in that post.

I’d wager you don’t know any real life agents and you certainly don’t know Mino. He’s played an absolute blunder with Erling so far and done exactly what he and Alf think has been best for his career.

I’ve made the points I wanted to make and any hypotheticals you wish to proffer are entirely immaterial
 
I’ve no idea what the question is and what the statement is supposed to be in that post.

I’d wager you don’t know any real life agents and you certainly don’t know Mino. He’s played an absolute blunder with Erling so far and done exactly what he and Alf think has been best for his career.

I’ve made the points I wanted to make and any hypotheticals you wish to proffer are entirely immaterial
all I'm saying is Dortmund bought him for 20 million on a 4 year contract. Obviously the big clubs didn't fancy a punt at that time. And that decision looks like a mistake. I do get your point thinking about it, if Mino was really convinced Haaland was the real deal then going to Dortmund relatively cheaply on a 4 year contract was a masterstroke looking at how things have turned out. Instead of going to say Madrid for 40 million, he goes to Dortmund for 20 million, proves how good he is then moves onto Madrid or whoever for 100 million, genius!.
 
Of course everyone wants a return on their investment, I wasn't implying they didn't but as with all things there has to be a balance. 'Super agents' taking tens of millions on transfers isn't good for the game. Buying clubs by leveraging them with debts they are unlikely to ever pay off unless they win the lottery of the PL or CL isn't good for the game.

Not sure how allowing cash injections 'x in y years' is more restrictive than current FFP when FFP only looks at what you did in the past and not what you want to do in the future?
When talking about cash injections I was meaning allowing cash injections over and above anything else, not as the only means of revenue. The same way that the Sheik was able to do with City before FFP, the same way that owners have done for decades in years gone by.

£30m Euros doesn't buy a strikers left arm these days. Why not allow the likes of Newcastle to be taken over and have money pumped into them in order to transform the team, but don't allow it to be unlimited to the extent that the elite can simply ramp it up further and blow away everyone else. For example allow clubs up to £500m of direct additional investment in a four year period.
Infrastructure projects can be treated separately to the investment made in the team itself.
Buying a business and then making the business pay for it is not allowed in some countries, the USA is one interestingly enough, but it is lawful in the UK and so UEFA would find itself tied up in the courts for years if it tried to outlaw it. It seems unlikely to be good "for the game", I agree, but it looks certain not to be good for Burnley and other clubs but it is still lawful. There are a couple of points about cash injections, the first of which is that you wish to limit what can be injected and limit the period over which it can be invested (over and above other sources of revenue). This pays no heed to the needs of the club. Spurs' new stadium s illustrates the problem. During construction the costs spiralled which means they would almost certainly have injected more than allowed and/or taken longer to have paid. It took Arsenal years to pay for their new ground and Spurs will take years so the idea that injecting so much over so long defies any attempt by regulations to say what can be invested over how long. And neither Arsenal nor Spurs could show that the "money actually existed" because they had to borrow it and it was the judgement of the lenders, not the FA or UEFA, that they could meet repayments years in the future. But it would be "bad for the game" if such investment and debt were not allowed. So, do you want to limit spending just on transfers and wages .......... which is exactly what FFP tries to do, and this favours some clubs massively at the expense of others. As for agents, they perform a service which players obviously value and as well as being, as the phrase goes, stakeholders in the game they're also the people we pay to go and watch so we may need to proceed with care.
 
Buying a business and then making the business pay for it is not allowed in some countries, the USA is one interestingly enough, but it is lawful in the UK and so UEFA would find itself tied up in the courts for years if it tried to outlaw it. It seems unlikely to be good "for the game", I agree, but it looks certain not to be good for Burnley and other clubs but it is still lawful. There are a couple of points about cash injections, the first of which is that you wish to limit what can be injected and limit the period over which it can be invested (over and above other sources of revenue). This pays no heed to the needs of the club. Spurs' new stadium s illustrates the problem. During construction the costs spiralled which means they would almost certainly have injected more than allowed and/or taken longer to have paid. It took Arsenal years to pay for their new ground and Spurs will take years so the idea that injecting so much over so long defies any attempt by regulations to say what can be invested over how long. And neither Arsenal nor Spurs could show that the "money actually existed" because they had to borrow it and it was the judgement of the lenders, not the FA or UEFA, that they could meet repayments years in the future. But it would be "bad for the game" if such investment and debt were not allowed. So, do you want to limit spending just on transfers and wages .......... which is exactly what FFP tries to do, and this favours some clubs massively at the expense of others. As for agents, they perform a service which players obviously value and as well as being, as the phrase goes, stakeholders in the game they're also the people we pay to go and watch so we may need to proceed with care.
I would imagine that stadium costs will not be included in the restrictions. All regulation of the P and L favours some clubs against others and is bound to fail because the Barca's of this world will do it all on the never never.
 
I reckon he is worth that. Under Pep Haaland will be the best in the world. He's not far off it already. We will make a long-term profit on him in marketing terms.
Where will he play in Peps no striker system?

lol only funning really but one of them will have to change styles a little to accommodate a match made in heaven.
 
No, striker. At Bayern, under Guardiola. Strangely Aguero has played there too under the same manager at City. Must be a coincidence.
Why are you rattling on?

I said I was only funning for a start but the point remains Haaland will still have to change his style to play in Pep's system.
 

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