City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Re: City & FFP (continued)

It’s all part of the same game.

City get ridiculed so Martin Samuels takes the positive option.
City are praised so Matty Scott takes the negative option.

Indirectly they’re both saying that City are smarter than UEFA.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Stoned Rose said:
Petrovs left peg said:

This is bang on the money. If you want to have a broader understanding of what the club are doing then I suggest you read Soriano's book, "Goal: The ball doesn't go in by chance"

Here is a couple of short extracts from the start of the book;

"If what you want is to be a leader and win, to keep ahead of your competitors, you have to reinterpret the existing logic and be capable of a new understanding. . . . . . . . Industries make great strides forward when someone looks at and analyses the situation in a new way and capable of offering new products and services in line with that new understanding"

"Between both extremes there are clubs who have a basic understanding of how the industry works, but they don't reinvent it. They exist in the middle of football league tables . . . . . . . . . their ability to do no more than copy the best"


Soriano talks about Spurs and United having the same revenue in the early 90's and now they are light years apart. The point he makes is that United took their brand global by thinking differently, and capitalising on that success, which in turn reinforces their position at the top.

What City are now doing is taking the word "Globalisation" and reinterpreting the existing logic and taking our club truly global. We will actually have clubs around the word rather than selling licences for duvet covers and placemats. We are in the fortunate position that we have the backing of someone who will make this happen in the best possible way.

What we will see over the next few years will be awesome. The problem we will face is by the existing "big clubs" who felt their position at the top was cemented. Fans of our rivals will call "foul play" because they cannot get their heads round the level the current City management team will take this club to. Only when the likes of Real begin to copy our new logic will they then begin to catch up.

Nice post.

In a nutsbhell our guys are cleverer than theirs.
Noithing drives innovation like adversity. Both posts brilliantly sum up what City were forced to do as a reaction to the G14's attempt to stop a new player entering their cosy, closed-shop football domain.

Would we have been as innovative as we have had the world of European football remained the same? It was always stated that our initial heavy investment would be eventually replaced by a sustainable financial model, but I believe this process was accelerated and massively ramped up because of the probable consequences FFP.

So what have we done? It was made very clear we weren't welcome in the existing elite football world, so we've created our own world in which we are kings which runs parallel to the hackneyed world populated by the current European elite. None of them weren't arsed about us in the slightest as FFP had bitten, we were fined a world record £49m and were not allowed to spend over a sanctioned amount which saw the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez, Costa and Di Maria pass us by as we stood by seemingly nuetered by UEFA. Job done!

But less than 6 months later we post massively improved financial results which shocked the football world and now the smell of coffee is beginning to wake the G14 up to the fact that we are indeed just at the start of our journey. We've started the first phase of the preparatory work by creating our own world in which to operate, marketed this to sports fans and business commerce on a global scale never before seen thus giving an alternative to the stale tried and tested predictable football world of old which draws City and Bayern in the same CL group 3 years out of 4.

City are now a bigger monster at this stage of our development than we would have been if the G14 hadn't concocted FFP to try and kill us at birth. We are a monster of their creation and I don't believe it will be too long before the G14 begins to break apart as one by one they jump their sinking old world sailing vessel and try to board our new world carbon fibre power boat.

By all accounts Real are the first to realise this and the rest are sure to follow.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Dribble said:
Stoned Rose said:
Petrovs left peg said:
This is bang on the money. If you want to have a broader understanding of what the club are doing then I suggest you read Soriano's book, "Goal: The ball doesn't go in by chance"

Here is a couple of short extracts from the start of the book;

"If what you want is to be a leader and win, to keep ahead of your competitors, you have to reinterpret the existing logic and be capable of a new understanding. . . . . . . . Industries make great strides forward when someone looks at and analyses the situation in a new way and capable of offering new products and services in line with that new understanding"

"Between both extremes there are clubs who have a basic understanding of how the industry works, but they don't reinvent it. They exist in the middle of football league tables . . . . . . . . . their ability to do no more than copy the best"


Soriano talks about Spurs and United having the same revenue in the early 90's and now they are light years apart. The point he makes is that United took their brand global by thinking differently, and capitalising on that success, which in turn reinforces their position at the top.

What City are now doing is taking the word "Globalisation" and reinterpreting the existing logic and taking our club truly global. We will actually have clubs around the word rather than selling licences for duvet covers and placemats. We are in the fortunate position that we have the backing of someone who will make this happen in the best possible way.

What we will see over the next few years will be awesome. The problem we will face is by the existing "big clubs" who felt their position at the top was cemented. Fans of our rivals will call "foul play" because they cannot get their heads round the level the current City management team will take this club to. Only when the likes of Real begin to copy our new logic will they then begin to catch up.

Nice post.

In a nutsbhell our guys are cleverer than theirs.
Noithing drives innovation like adversity. Both posts brilliantly sum up what City were forced to do as a reaction to the G14's attempt to stop a new player entering their cosy, closed-shop football domain.

Would we have been as innovative as we have had the world of European football remained the same? It was always stated that our initial heavy investment would be eventually replaced by a sustainable financial model, but I believe this process was accelerated and massively ramped up because of the probable consequences FFP.

So what have we done? It was made very clear we weren't welcome in the existing elite football world, so we've created our own world in which we are kings which runs parallel to the hackneyed world populated by the current European elite. None of them weren't arsed about us in the slightest as FFP had bitten, we were fined a world record £49m and were not allowed to spend over a sanctioned amount which saw the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez, Costa and Di Maria pass us by as we stood by seemingly nuetered by UEFA. Job done!

But less than 6 months later we post massively improved financial results which shocked the football world and now the smell of coffee is beginning to wake the G14 up to the fact that we are indeed just at the start of our journey. We've started the first phase of the preparatory work by creating our own world in which to operate, marketed this to sports fans and business commerce on a global scale never before seen thus giving an alternative to the stale tried and tested predictable football world of old which draws City and Bayern in the same CL group 3 years out of 4.

City are now a bigger monster at this stage of our development than we would have been if the G14 hadn't concocted FFP to try and kill us at birth. We are a monster of their creation and I don't believe it will be too long before the G14 begins to break apart as one by one they jump their sinking old world sailing vessel and try to board our new world carbon fibre power boat.

By all accounts Real are the first to realise this and the rest are sure to follow.

The opposite of Dribble that pal, great post.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

TFC said:
Dribble said:
Stoned Rose said:
Nice post.

In a nutsbhell our guys are cleverer than theirs.
Noithing drives innovation like adversity. Both posts brilliantly sum up what City were forced to do as a reaction to the G14's attempt to stop a new player entering their cosy, closed-shop football domain.

Would we have been as innovative as we have had the world of European football remained the same? It was always stated that our initial heavy investment would be eventually replaced by a sustainable financial model, but I believe this process was accelerated and massively ramped up because of the probable consequences FFP.

So what have we done? It was made very clear we weren't welcome in the existing elite football world, so we've created our own world in which we are kings which runs parallel to the hackneyed world populated by the current European elite. None of them weren't arsed about us in the slightest as FFP had bitten, we were fined a world record £49m and were not allowed to spend over a sanctioned amount which saw the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez, Costa and Di Maria pass us by as we stood by seemingly nuetered by UEFA. Job done!

But less than 6 months later we post massively improved financial results which shocked the football world and now the smell of coffee is beginning to wake the G14 up to the fact that we are indeed just at the start of our journey. We've started the first phase of the preparatory work by creating our own world in which to operate, marketed this to sports fans and business commerce on a global scale never before seen thus giving an alternative to the stale tried and tested predictable football world of old which draws City and Bayern in the same CL group 3 years out of 4.

City are now a bigger monster at this stage of our development than we would have been if the G14 hadn't concocted FFP to try and kill us at birth. We are a monster of their creation and I don't believe it will be too long before the G14 begins to break apart as one by one they jump their sinking old world sailing vessel and try to board our new world carbon fibre power boat.

By all accounts Real are the first to realise this and the rest are sure to follow.

The opposite of Dribble that pal, great post.
It was indeed.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

TFC said:
Dribble said:
Stoned Rose said:
Nice post.

In a nutsbhell our guys are cleverer than theirs.
Noithing drives innovation like adversity. Both posts brilliantly sum up what City were forced to do as a reaction to the G14's attempt to stop a new player entering their cosy, closed-shop football domain.

Would we have been as innovative as we have had the world of European football remained the same? It was always stated that our initial heavy investment would be eventually replaced by a sustainable financial model, but I believe this process was accelerated and massively ramped up because of the probable consequences FFP.

So what have we done? It was made very clear we weren't welcome in the existing elite football world, so we've created our own world in which we are kings which runs parallel to the hackneyed world populated by the current European elite. None of them weren't arsed about us in the slightest as FFP had bitten, we were fined a world record £49m and were not allowed to spend over a sanctioned amount which saw the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez, Costa and Di Maria pass us by as we stood by seemingly nuetered by UEFA. Job done!

But less than 6 months later we post massively improved financial results which shocked the football world and now the smell of coffee is beginning to wake the G14 up to the fact that we are indeed just at the start of our journey. We've started the first phase of the preparatory work by creating our own world in which to operate, marketed this to sports fans and business commerce on a global scale never before seen thus giving an alternative to the stale tried and tested predictable football world of old which draws City and Bayern in the same CL group 3 years out of 4.

City are now a bigger monster at this stage of our development than we would have been if the G14 hadn't concocted FFP to try and kill us at birth. We are a monster of their creation and I don't believe it will be too long before the G14 begins to break apart as one by one they jump their sinking old world sailing vessel and try to board our new world carbon fibre power boat.

By all accounts Real are the first to realise this and the rest are sure to follow.

The opposite of Dribble that pal, great post.
What's this about Real?
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Dribble said:
Stoned Rose said:
Petrovs left peg said:
This is bang on the money. If you want to have a broader understanding of what the club are doing then I suggest you read Soriano's book, "Goal: The ball doesn't go in by chance"

Here is a couple of short extracts from the start of the book;

"If what you want is to be a leader and win, to keep ahead of your competitors, you have to reinterpret the existing logic and be capable of a new understanding. . . . . . . . Industries make great strides forward when someone looks at and analyses the situation in a new way and capable of offering new products and services in line with that new understanding"

"Between both extremes there are clubs who have a basic understanding of how the industry works, but they don't reinvent it. They exist in the middle of football league tables . . . . . . . . . their ability to do no more than copy the best"


Soriano talks about Spurs and United having the same revenue in the early 90's and now they are light years apart. The point he makes is that United took their brand global by thinking differently, and capitalising on that success, which in turn reinforces their position at the top.

What City are now doing is taking the word "Globalisation" and reinterpreting the existing logic and taking our club truly global. We will actually have clubs around the word rather than selling licences for duvet covers and placemats. We are in the fortunate position that we have the backing of someone who will make this happen in the best possible way.

What we will see over the next few years will be awesome. The problem we will face is by the existing "big clubs" who felt their position at the top was cemented. Fans of our rivals will call "foul play" because they cannot get their heads round the level the current City management team will take this club to. Only when the likes of Real begin to copy our new logic will they then begin to catch up.

Nice post.

In a nutsbhell our guys are cleverer than theirs.
Noithing drives innovation like adversity. Both posts brilliantly sum up what City were forced to do as a reaction to the G14's attempt to stop a new player entering their cosy, closed-shop football domain.

Would we have been as innovative as we have had the world of European football remained the same? It was always stated that our initial heavy investment would be eventually replaced by a sustainable financial model, but I believe this process was accelerated and massively ramped up because of the probable consequences FFP.

So what have we done? It was made very clear we weren't welcome in the existing elite football world, so we've created our own world in which we are kings which runs parallel to the hackneyed world populated by the current European elite. None of them weren't arsed about us in the slightest as FFP had bitten, we were fined a world record £49m and were not allowed to spend over a sanctioned amount which saw the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez, Costa and Di Maria pass us by as we stood by seemingly nuetered by UEFA. Job done!

But less than 6 months later we post massively improved financial results which shocked the football world and now the smell of coffee is beginning to wake the G14 up to the fact that we are indeed just at the start of our journey. We've started the first phase of the preparatory work by creating our own world in which to operate, marketed this to sports fans and business commerce on a global scale never before seen thus giving an alternative to the stale tried and tested predictable football world of old which draws City and Bayern in the same CL group 3 years out of 4.

City are now a bigger monster at this stage of our development than we would have been if the G14 hadn't concocted FFP to try and kill us at birth. We are a monster of their creation and I don't believe it will be too long before the G14 begins to break apart as one by one they jump their sinking old world sailing vessel and try to board our new world carbon fibre power boat.

By all accounts Real are the first to realise this and the rest are sure to follow.
Have to add my congratulations on that post as well.

It's laughable to see the idiots over on RAWK bleating about doing things the "organic" and traditional way, with the success coming first, before the money. But that was in the 1970's when there was little or no money, above what teams earned at the turnstiles (and whatever a sugar saddy like David Moores gave them). In those days teams like Villa, Ipswich, Forest and us could win things and a managerial genius like Shankly, Paisley or Clough could be the major difference between being successful and being average.

That model first changed when a handful of powerful, well-supported clubs felt it wasn't fair that they should share gate receipts with their visiting opponents and threatened a breakaway if their demands weren't met. The outcome of that was that four of those five clubs won the title year after year and only once in the last 35 seasons has it been won by a team outside that cartel (Leeds) or the 'benefactor' clubs (us, Chelsea & Blackburn). That's no coincidence. They did that via skewed distribution of the single source of finance.

Then TV came along and the PL was formed. Fortunately the prize money was relatively evenly distributed but the bigger teams could still afford to pay higher fees and bigger wages, as gate receipts were still a significant revenue stream. But there was a huge disparity between the PL and the rest of the league and so owners did whatever they could to bridge that gap. People like Dave Whelan funded their clubs to make the leap and other owners were prepared to take unsustainable risks with their clubs' finances.

Did the Liverpools of this world say "Hang on, it's not fair that we've got loads of money and they haven't?" Did they fuck. They set out to grab even more, by expanding the lucrative CL from being a true competition for champions to one where you could qualify with a distant fourth-place finish. And for a short while, apart from an odd hiccup once in a while, they ruled the domestic and European football world. And the financial disparity grew even greater. But did those clubs then say "This isn't right. Any team used to be able to challenge for the title and now they can't. We'd better make it more of a level playing field by distributing our CL revenue among the other 16 clubs." No they didn't. They and their fans gloried in their status and their perceived entitlement to success.

Matthew Harding had already taken Chelsea up the league but Abramovich showed he was prepared to spend whatever it took to get to the top and stay there. It also gave him some political insurance against the capricious politician/mafioso to whom he owed allegiance and his fortune. Clubs were also taken over by money launderers and others interested in self-promotion. Football clubs had become bigger than just football. But did those guardians of the moral and ethics of the game say "Hang on. We need to take a step back and ensure that the character of the game and the clubs doesn't get damaged?" For the third time, the answer was no and they actively sought out and encouraged ever richer men to come into the game, no matter how morally dubious they were.

And now you needed three income streams to maintain success - tickets, TV and commercial - and the brighter clubs latched onto that third stream and sweated it. They recognised that football was a powerful brand that could be used by others to market their products or services. And a canny & ambitious Sheikh in Abu Dhabi realised that he could use it to market his state, gain global recognition for it and his major corporations. And the model of football ownership had changed again but seismically this time.

And all of a sudden, those "big" clubs that did everything to polarise the game, encourage increased revenues, maintain their own status, lock out pretenders looking to grab it and jealously guard their revenue streams, decide it's not fair. Well ain't that a woman.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Prestwich_Blue said:
Dribble said:
Stoned Rose said:
Nice post.

In a nutsbhell our guys are cleverer than theirs.
Noithing drives innovation like adversity. Both posts brilliantly sum up what City were forced to do as a reaction to the G14's attempt to stop a new player entering their cosy, closed-shop football domain.

Would we have been as innovative as we have had the world of European football remained the same? It was always stated that our initial heavy investment would be eventually replaced by a sustainable financial model, but I believe this process was accelerated and massively ramped up because of the probable consequences FFP.

So what have we done? It was made very clear we weren't welcome in the existing elite football world, so we've created our own world in which we are kings which runs parallel to the hackneyed world populated by the current European elite. None of them weren't arsed about us in the slightest as FFP had bitten, we were fined a world record £49m and were not allowed to spend over a sanctioned amount which saw the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez, Costa and Di Maria pass us by as we stood by seemingly nuetered by UEFA. Job done!

But less than 6 months later we post massively improved financial results which shocked the football world and now the smell of coffee is beginning to wake the G14 up to the fact that we are indeed just at the start of our journey. We've started the first phase of the preparatory work by creating our own world in which to operate, marketed this to sports fans and business commerce on a global scale never before seen thus giving an alternative to the stale tried and tested predictable football world of old which draws City and Bayern in the same CL group 3 years out of 4.

City are now a bigger monster at this stage of our development than we would have been if the G14 hadn't concocted FFP to try and kill us at birth. We are a monster of their creation and I don't believe it will be too long before the G14 begins to break apart as one by one they jump their sinking old world sailing vessel and try to board our new world carbon fibre power boat.

By all accounts Real are the first to realise this and the rest are sure to follow.
Have to add my congratulations on that post as well.

It's laughable to see the idiots over on RAWK bleating about doing things the "organic" and traditional way, with the success coming first, before the money. But that was in the 1970's when there was little or no money, above what teams earned at the turnstiles (and whatever a sugar saddy like David Moores gave them). In those days teams like Villa, Ipswich, Forest and us could win things and a managerial genius like Shankly, Paisley or Clough could be the major difference between being successful and being average.

That model first changed when a handful of powerful, well-supported clubs felt it wasn't fair that they should share gate receipts with their visiting opponents and threatened a breakaway if their demands weren't met. The outcome of that was that four of those five clubs won the title year after year and only once in the last 35 seasons has it been won by a team outside that cartel (Leeds) or the 'benefactor' clubs (us, Chelsea & Blackburn). That's no coincidence. They did that via skewed distribution of the single source of finance.

Then TV came along and the PL was formed. Fortunately the prize money was relatively evenly distributed but the bigger teams could still afford to pay higher fees and bigger wages, as gate receipts were still a significant revenue stream. But there was a huge disparity between the PL and the rest of the league and so owners did whatever they could to bridge that gap. People like Dave Whelan funded their clubs to make the leap and other owners were prepared to take unsustainable risks with their clubs' finances.

Did the Liverpools of this world say "Hang on, it's not fair that we've got loads of money and they haven't?" Did they fuck. They set out to grab even more, by expanding the lucrative CL from being a true competition for champions to one where you could qualify with a distant fourth-place finish. And for a short while, apart from an odd hiccup once in a while, they ruled the domestic and European football world. And the financial disparity grew even greater. But did those clubs then say "This isn't right. Any team used to be able to challenge for the title and now they can't. We'd better make it more of a level playing field by distributing our CL revenue among the other 16 clubs." No they didn't. They and their fans gloried in their status and their perceived entitlement to success.

Matthew Harding had already taken Chelsea up the league but Abramovich showed he was prepared to spend whatever it took to get to the top and stay there. It also gave him some political insurance against the capricious politician/mafioso to whom he owed allegiance and his fortune. Clubs were also taken over by money launderers and others interested in self-promotion. Football clubs had become bigger than just football. But did those guardians of the moral and ethics of the game say "Hang on. We need to take a step back and ensure that the character of the game and the clubs doesn't get damaged?" For the third time, the answer was no and they actively sought out and encouraged ever richer men to come into the game, no matter how morally dubious they were.

And now you needed three income streams to maintain success - tickets, TV and commercial - and the brighter clubs latched onto that third stream and sweated it. They recognised that football was a powerful brand that could be used by others to market their products or services. And a canny & ambitious Sheikh in Abu Dhabi realised that he could use it to market his state, gain global recognition for it and his major corporations. And the model of football ownership had changed again but seismically this time.

And all of a sudden, those "big" clubs that did everything to polarise the game, encourage increased revenues, maintain their own status, lock out pretenders looking to grab it and jealously guard their revenue streams, decide it's not fair. Well ain't that a woman.


I need to get these posts memorised. Bravo.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Prestwich_Blue said:
Dribble said:
Stoned Rose said:
Nice post.

In a nutsbhell our guys are cleverer than theirs.
Noithing drives innovation like adversity. Both posts brilliantly sum up what City were forced to do as a reaction to the G14's attempt to stop a new player entering their cosy, closed-shop football domain.

Would we have been as innovative as we have had the world of European football remained the same? It was always stated that our initial heavy investment would be eventually replaced by a sustainable financial model, but I believe this process was accelerated and massively ramped up because of the probable consequences FFP.

So what have we done? It was made very clear we weren't welcome in the existing elite football world, so we've created our own world in which we are kings which runs parallel to the hackneyed world populated by the current European elite. None of them weren't arsed about us in the slightest as FFP had bitten, we were fined a world record £49m and were not allowed to spend over a sanctioned amount which saw the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez, Costa and Di Maria pass us by as we stood by seemingly nuetered by UEFA. Job done!

But less than 6 months later we post massively improved financial results which shocked the football world and now the smell of coffee is beginning to wake the G14 up to the fact that we are indeed just at the start of our journey. We've started the first phase of the preparatory work by creating our own world in which to operate, marketed this to sports fans and business commerce on a global scale never before seen thus giving an alternative to the stale tried and tested predictable football world of old which draws City and Bayern in the same CL group 3 years out of 4.

City are now a bigger monster at this stage of our development than we would have been if the G14 hadn't concocted FFP to try and kill us at birth. We are a monster of their creation and I don't believe it will be too long before the G14 begins to break apart as one by one they jump their sinking old world sailing vessel and try to board our new world carbon fibre power boat.

By all accounts Real are the first to realise this and the rest are sure to follow.
Have to add my congratulations on that post as well.

It's laughable to see the idiots over on RAWK bleating about doing things the "organic" and traditional way, with the success coming first, before the money. But that was in the 1970's when there was little or no money, above what teams earned at the turnstiles (and whatever a sugar saddy like David Moores gave them). In those days teams like Villa, Ipswich, Forest and us could win things and a managerial genius like Shankly, Paisley or Clough could be the major difference between being successful and being average.

That model first changed when a handful of powerful, well-supported clubs felt it wasn't fair that they should share gate receipts with their visiting opponents and threatened a breakaway if their demands weren't met. The outcome of that was that four of those five clubs won the title year after year and only once in the last 35 seasons has it been won by a team outside that cartel (Leeds) or the 'benefactor' clubs (us, Chelsea & Blackburn). That's no coincidence. They did that via skewed distribution of the single source of finance.

Then TV came along and the PL was formed. Fortunately the prize money was relatively evenly distributed but the bigger teams could still afford to pay higher fees and bigger wages, as gate receipts were still a significant revenue stream. But there was a huge disparity between the PL and the rest of the league and so owners did whatever they could to bridge that gap. People like Dave Whelan funded their clubs to make the leap and other owners were prepared to take unsustainable risks with their clubs' finances.

Did the Liverpools of this world say "Hang on, it's not fair that we've got loads of money and they haven't?" Did they fuck. They set out to grab even more, by expanding the lucrative CL from being a true competition for champions to one where you could qualify with a distant fourth-place finish. And for a short while, apart from an odd hiccup once in a while, they ruled the domestic and European football world. And the financial disparity grew even greater. But did those clubs then say "This isn't right. Any team used to be able to challenge for the title and now they can't. We'd better make it more of a level playing field by distributing our CL revenue among the other 16 clubs." No they didn't. They and their fans gloried in their status and their perceived entitlement to success.

Matthew Harding had already taken Chelsea up the league but Abramovich showed he was prepared to spend whatever it took to get to the top and stay there. It also gave him some political insurance against the capricious politician/mafioso to whom he owed allegiance and his fortune. Clubs were also taken over by money launderers and others interested in self-promotion. Football clubs had become bigger than just football. But did those guardians of the moral and ethics of the game say "Hang on. We need to take a step back and ensure that the character of the game and the clubs doesn't get damaged?" For the third time, the answer was no and they actively sought out and encouraged ever richer men to come into the game, no matter how morally dubious they were.

And now you needed three income streams to maintain success - tickets, TV and commercial - and the brighter clubs latched onto that third stream and sweated it. They recognised that football was a powerful brand that could be used by others to market their products or services. And a canny & ambitious Sheikh in Abu Dhabi realised that he could use it to market his state, gain global recognition for it and his major corporations. And the model of football ownership had changed again but seismically this time.

And all of a sudden, those "big" clubs that did everything to polarise the game, encourage increased revenues, maintain their own status, lock out pretenders looking to grab it and jealously guard their revenue streams, decide it's not fair. Well ain't that a woman.

I hope someone copies and pastes that and it then finds its way over to RAWK. It will be interesting to see their reaction.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

stony said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Dribble said:
Noithing drives innovation like adversity. Both posts brilliantly sum up what City were forced to do as a reaction to the G14's attempt to stop a new player entering their cosy, closed-shop football domain.

Would we have been as innovative as we have had the world of European football remained the same? It was always stated that our initial heavy investment would be eventually replaced by a sustainable financial model, but I believe this process was accelerated and massively ramped up because of the probable consequences FFP.

So what have we done? It was made very clear we weren't welcome in the existing elite football world, so we've created our own world in which we are kings which runs parallel to the hackneyed world populated by the current European elite. None of them weren't arsed about us in the slightest as FFP had bitten, we were fined a world record £49m and were not allowed to spend over a sanctioned amount which saw the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez, Costa and Di Maria pass us by as we stood by seemingly nuetered by UEFA. Job done!

But less than 6 months later we post massively improved financial results which shocked the football world and now the smell of coffee is beginning to wake the G14 up to the fact that we are indeed just at the start of our journey. We've started the first phase of the preparatory work by creating our own world in which to operate, marketed this to sports fans and business commerce on a global scale never before seen thus giving an alternative to the stale tried and tested predictable football world of old which draws City and Bayern in the same CL group 3 years out of 4.

City are now a bigger monster at this stage of our development than we would have been if the G14 hadn't concocted FFP to try and kill us at birth. We are a monster of their creation and I don't believe it will be too long before the G14 begins to break apart as one by one they jump their sinking old world sailing vessel and try to board our new world carbon fibre power boat.

By all accounts Real are the first to realise this and the rest are sure to follow.
Have to add my congratulations on that post as well.

It's laughable to see the idiots over on RAWK bleating about doing things the "organic" and traditional way, with the success coming first, before the money. But that was in the 1970's when there was little or no money, above what teams earned at the turnstiles (and whatever a sugar saddy like David Moores gave them). In those days teams like Villa, Ipswich, Forest and us could win things and a managerial genius like Shankly, Paisley or Clough could be the major difference between being successful and being average.

That model first changed when a handful of powerful, well-supported clubs felt it wasn't fair that they should share gate receipts with their visiting opponents and threatened a breakaway if their demands weren't met. The outcome of that was that four of those five clubs won the title year after year and only once in the last 35 seasons has it been won by a team outside that cartel (Leeds) or the 'benefactor' clubs (us, Chelsea & Blackburn). That's no coincidence. They did that via skewed distribution of the single source of finance.

Then TV came along and the PL was formed. Fortunately the prize money was relatively evenly distributed but the bigger teams could still afford to pay higher fees and bigger wages, as gate receipts were still a significant revenue stream. But there was a huge disparity between the PL and the rest of the league and so owners did whatever they could to bridge that gap. People like Dave Whelan funded their clubs to make the leap and other owners were prepared to take unsustainable risks with their clubs' finances.

Did the Liverpools of this world say "Hang on, it's not fair that we've got loads of money and they haven't?" Did they fuck. They set out to grab even more, by expanding the lucrative CL from being a true competition for champions to one where you could qualify with a distant fourth-place finish. And for a short while, apart from an odd hiccup once in a while, they ruled the domestic and European football world. And the financial disparity grew even greater. But did those clubs then say "This isn't right. Any team used to be able to challenge for the title and now they can't. We'd better make it more of a level playing field by distributing our CL revenue among the other 16 clubs." No they didn't. They and their fans gloried in their status and their perceived entitlement to success.

Matthew Harding had already taken Chelsea up the league but Abramovich showed he was prepared to spend whatever it took to get to the top and stay there. It also gave him some political insurance against the capricious politician/mafioso to whom he owed allegiance and his fortune. Clubs were also taken over by money launderers and others interested in self-promotion. Football clubs had become bigger than just football. But did those guardians of the moral and ethics of the game say "Hang on. We need to take a step back and ensure that the character of the game and the clubs doesn't get damaged?" For the third time, the answer was no and they actively sought out and encouraged ever richer men to come into the game, no matter how morally dubious they were.

And now you needed three income streams to maintain success - tickets, TV and commercial - and the brighter clubs latched onto that third stream and sweated it. They recognised that football was a powerful brand that could be used by others to market their products or services. And a canny & ambitious Sheikh in Abu Dhabi realised that he could use it to market his state, gain global recognition for it and his major corporations. And the model of football ownership had changed again but seismically this time.

And all of a sudden, those "big" clubs that did everything to polarise the game, encourage increased revenues, maintain their own status, lock out pretenders looking to grab it and jealously guard their revenue streams, decide it's not fair. Well ain't that a woman.

I hope someone copies and pastes that and it then finds its way over to RAWK. It will be interesting to see their reaction.

It deserves a much better platform than rawk.
 

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