City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Re: City & FFP (continued)

FanchesterCity said:
EricBrooksGhost said:
FanchesterCity said:
Not as far as I'm aware (not for sport). It's been challenged for other industries, but they aren't comparable to this issue.
As far as I know, it's a bit of an 'unknown', someone needs to test the water... but nobody wants to get wet doing it!

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There are SOME precedents prior to 101 that can still be used, where sport HAS been deemed worthy of special exemption, and there equally plenty of others where it hasn't!. In general sport is never above the law. But that's not the argument here really, the argument is if FFP qualifies under 101(3).
The law will still take into account precedents that simply 'happen' in society. Less so once there's a legal precedent set. Even if one is set, it can be changed (just much more rare).
I think we've got a great case, but since we may not be hindered by it any more, if it worth City being the guinea pig?
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FFS just breathe a little; if there was ever a lesson in "less is more"
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'sonly words.
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Kazzydeyna said:
I might be missing something here but can we refrain as a fan base from hanging out our captain to dry on the weekend of a derby?

We don't yet know what, if anything, Kompany has said to the mirror. A paper with a long and proud history of writing hit pieces on our club.

And a captain who has given our club more in the last few years than almost any player in my lifetime (I'm 44).

Never forget, it's the weekend of a derby. Believe what you read tomorrow very much at your peril and FFS get, and stay, behind the team.

Including, and especially, our captain.
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........THIS!!!
How can anyone comment on something they haven't read yet!?!?......yes Vincent's had a poor season by his standards, but he has had injuries; but with the short memories on here, that's probably been forgotten
 
de niro said:
vinny is on the money on this.
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I agree and it's good that he's done the interview now immediately before the derby.

Let's ram FFP down the c***s throats just like "the old days" when we tore the banner down and then knocked the piss can off his perch.
 
Here it is:
Vincent Kompany has blasted football’s big FFP fix.

Manchester City captain Kompany believes that the financial regulations initially drafted by UEFA to stop clubs going bust are being used instead to protect the status quo at the top of the game. While debt-free City were fined £50million and forced to operate under a £49m transfer limit this season after breaching FFP, neighbours United were allowed to spend £150m on new signings despite being almost £400m in the red. And, ahead of Sunday’s Manchester derby, Kompany has outlined what he believes is the real motive behind clubs like United, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich in forcing UEFA to implement regulations that prevent owners like City’s Sheikh Mansour from investing their personal wealth in players and wages.

“Just who is FFP protecting?” questioned Kompany. “For me, it is protecting those few clubs who were already geared up to be successful. It’s the clubs who were already able to generate the most revenue that wanted FFP the most. So I just look at it in terms of the established order protecting themselves."

“In the business world, you can’t tell people that they can’t invest their own money in their own companies. When I first came to England seven years ago, it was the same four clubs always in the top four. That has changed. Our owners have invested to build a successful club. That in itself will bring in more fans and create more revenue. Is that so bad?"

"Our owners are successful businessmen investing in business. We all understand that there needs to be regulation in football, but the way it’s been done makes me ask what is going to now change at the top over the next few years? Just because a club is part of the established order doesn’t mean they should be guaranteed success forever.”

Kompany joined City just 10 days before Sheikh Mansour bought the club. In the past four seasons, the Blues have won two Premier League titles, the FA Cup and the Capital One Cup. But there is a belief at the Etihad that it was the restrictions placed on them by FFP that have contributed significantly to the current trophy-less campaign.

Former United chief executive David Gill was a major advocate of FFP – despite being at Old Trafford when the Glazer family plunged the club into unprecedented levels of debt. Kompany said: “There are a lot of clubs in football that have been financed by people who just wanted to live their own personal dream. Those clubs were so linked to those individuals that the moment they got out, they were left with problems. But City aren’t like that. Look at what this club has done for the community and the city of Manchester – and don’t forget that we pay a lot of tax in the UK as well, so that helps the economy."

"Just because clubs with most fans generate the most revenue, does that give them the right to buy the best players? If City’s owners hadn’t invested like they did five years ago, it might have been too late for them to create a top club.”

Kompany added: “Why doesn’t a club like this deserve to get to the top level? The City fans have always turned up in their thousands, even when the club was in League One. Now they can say they have seen their team as champions. So-called bigger clubs should just have to bite the pill because what we have done is much fairer than what FFP means. What has been introduced denies clubs like Leeds, Nottingham Forest and others with big fan-bases the opportunity to ever get to the top level again.”
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Nothing we've not been saying for a while.
 
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