City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

hold our fire until early next week then hopefully as champions of england threaten to withdraw from their flagship tournament

I like the cut of your jib, Sir.

 

[the blue panther]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

hold our fire until early next week then hopefully as champions of england threaten to withdraw from their flagship tournament

I like the cut of your jib, Sir.

And let Everton/Spurs take our place? Unlikely.

 

[ForzaMancini]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Apologies if it has been covered but any potential fine we will receive will not be counted in future FFP calculations

 

[nmc]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Patrick Barclay is a twat.

Didn't he write Fergie's biography?

Your confusing him with Rudolf Hess. ; ).

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Apologies if it has been covered but any potential fine we will receive will not be counted in future FFP calculations

Really?? ;)

 

[nmc]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Apologies if it has been covered but any potential fine we will receive will not be counted in future FFP calculations

Yeah until they change the rules again... They are not going to let go. They are a cartel and they won't let anyone else join. Playing nicely won't help I'm afraid.

 

[80s Shorts]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Apologies if it has been covered but any potential fine we will receive will not be counted in future FFP calculations

Really?? ;)

Some sources say that, but some are saying it will be withheld chumps league money and so would therefore count in future ffp.

I think the reported squad restriction would be more damaging anyway.

 

[bluenova]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

I have search the FFP rules and can't see anywhere where it says that the licensing requirements and associated FFP obligations do not apply for new applicants.

Honestly, I think they have just made it up on the fly so as to let Liverpool off the hook. After all, the rules were made up to help Liverpool, Arsenal and the like, so they can't have them hurting those clubs can they.

Whilst I enjoy a little Liverpool bashing myself, this does make sense. It's the first year of FFP, and they have spend months reviewing accounts of the clubs from previous years. If they had opened that up to 'possibles' then it would have taken a lot longer. I suspect they may in future years as it won't take as long to audit those they've done previously.

Sorry mate but I cannot agree with that.

1. If the intention was always to "let off" clubs that were not yet in the CL, then the rules should say so. If they do not say so, we can reasonably and quite justifiably assume they are making it up as they go along, which is totally unacceptable.

2. UEFA's inability to audit accounts - were that to be the case - cannot reasonably be used as an excuse to favour one club vs another, when £50m fines are being banded about.

3. Once the CL qualifiers for the next season are known, there's plenty of time for them to submit break-even result information for audit before the season starts. What on earth is the point of auditing break-even results for clubs who have not or may not qualify? A complete waste of time and effort for all concerned.

I think you might be overestimating how quickly these things can be done. If the process didn't start for some clubs till next week, then with the auditing, plus review times, possible appeals etc, it's highly unlikely everything would be sorted before the start of the CL qualifying.

As it's the first year UEFA know this is crunch time for the process and it's likely that there could be challenges and arguments. I don't doubt that this process has been hijacked in some way by current big teams as a way to keep the status quo, but I don't buy the pro-Liverpool agenda.

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Apologies if it has been covered but any potential fine we will receive will not be counted in future FFP calculations

Really?? ;)

Some sources say that, but some are saying it will be withheld chumps league money and so would therefore count in future ffp.

I think the reported squad restriction would be more damaging anyway.

Fine and withheld prize money are two separate punishments/sanctions, therefore I think a fine will not count towards future FFP calculations, whereas withheld prizemoney obviously would.

 

[blue_paul]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Can someone explain where the rules have been changed to make a case against us?
This has been inferred several times on this thread. If UEFA gave us a set of rules to abide by at the introduction of FFP, surely they don't have a leg to stand on from a legal point of view if they are now retrospectively adding different clauses to these rules?
Or are they simply arguing the toss with us about the sale of IP rights?