City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

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We hired 2 of it's architects and have a vast amount of legal firepower and seemingly the law (not uefa rules).
With that said if we lie down and take this i admit i will be really pissed off, really pissed off.

We better tell them to fuck off and go to court or what is the point in having all these suits?
 
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We still haven't a word from City or UEFA and the "leaks" finding their way into the press describe a state of affairs that makes Alice in Wonderland seem like a haven of sanity compared to UEFA. I fear that the most reliable information we have came from PB's post last night pointing out that the Sheikh was very unhappy because City had been assured by UEFA over a long period that the club was on track to comply, then at the very last minute the committee dealing with compliance had ruled out some of our revenue streams. This presumably is the committee headed by the Belgian banker who was so prudent himself that his bank needed a 9 billion euro bail out - probably funded in part by Sheikh Mansour! It is suggested that our deal with Etihad is, in fact, "doping" - in contrast to the sponsorship deals between Bayern Munich and Allianz and Bayern Munich and Audi, the club's two biggest sponsors, who, strangely enough, are also the two major share holders in the club! But we know that anyone associated with Bayern Munich has to be clean as a whistle, financially speaking - don't we President Hoeness? And, of course, Barca's finances are transparent....as are Manchester United's.

Then there's the Sheikh. Apparently UEFA are convinced he's at least 150 times more a threat to the game than buying titles and cups by paying referees. In fact he's such a threat he has to be hit with a world record fine, not for building an academy or rebuilding half of Manchester you understand, but for buying players...We don't want that kind in football.

The cynic in me says that UEFA have no - and never had any - intention of City passing the compliance test. I won't say Platini is actually happier with English clubs owned by money launderers from foreign parts and living in foreign cells and the like, but he does owe the English contingent of the G14 for the way they manfully overspent to turn the CL into UEFA's cash cow, and now it's pay back time.

So it's no good saying pay up and hope for the best next season or think of how many people won't like us if we go to court. UEFA are going in for the kill. But, they are not dealing with a wounded victim: they're dealing with someone who is honourable, honest, has integrity and a very clear view of where he's going. And he has the law on his side.
 
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the blue panther said:
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
City Raider said:
hold our fire until early next week then hopefully as champions of england threaten to withdraw from their flagship tournament

I like the cut of your jib, Sir.


And let Everton/Spurs take our place? Unlikely.

Whilst suing UEFA for punitive damages which would ruin them, exposing the G14 as a cartel leading to prison sentences
for some of their board members and doing the domestic treble in 2015. I think I can live with that.
 
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john@staustell said:
Chippy_boy said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
They would have made it but only after pre-June 2010 wages were taken into account.

Have you seen anywhere in the rules where it says the licensing requirements do not apply for years when you're not in the CL? I don't see it anywhere at all, yet the assumption is simply that Liverpool are not being looked at. And regards pre-2010 wages, surely they couldn't use that since their break-even result trend is getting worse not better, which as I understand it is a requirement if the pre-2010 wages exemption is to apply.


UEFA has zero jurisdiction over domestic leagues, just not relevant. They can only look at people in their competitions.

That's just plain wrong. When you want to play in the CL, you need a license from UEFA. The licensing requirements stipulate all sorts of requirements across domains such as sporting, infrastructure, personnel, legal and financial. It's been this way since 2005. The FFPR break-even requirement is just another criterion added to the existing list of requirements.

The rules say that all clubs wanting to enter into European competition must apply for a license and now a extra requirement in order to be granted a license is to have losses of less than €45m for the last two monitoring periods. Nowhere does it say "unless you are not in the CL already, in which case this does not apply".
 
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Who remembers this letter?

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So what happened? Lots of learned people were telling everyone to relax we would be ok, now it appears we won't!
I say fight the bastards in the courts all this crap has to be illegal I don't care how many of the spiteful cartel voted for it to stitch us up!
 
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This may have been covered, but the squad size thing puzzles me somewhat. If we are reduced to a squad of 21, then the number of home grown players should reduce proportionally, however, all the speculation on this seems to say the reduction will only come from the 'main' category (17 players). As it's all guesswork at this time, it's probably just the media putting the worst spin on things.

The other categories are 4 association trained and 4 club trained players btw.
 
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Blue Note said:
Why the fuck do PSG get away with it?

It's been said that they are happy to take the hit and we are getting tarred by the same brush as to make it look like UEFA are being even handed.
 

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