City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[yankcitizen76]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

If I was the Sheikh Mansour I would just sit down with my knees folded to the UEFA council, and say, "I promise you this, nothing!" In my best Michael Corleone voice. If it was just the limit on player expenditures, then fine, the club was doing that anyway, if it was just player limits on UEFA Cup squads - fine. That hurts, but the club can get around that. But the idea that those little fuckers want 50 million from "the team" is just a smack in the face. I am sure the club will take this judgement to court, and if they didn't i'd lose a lot of respect for them. Manchester City could easily have continued spending like crazy but didn't and worked with UEFA for the past three years to meet regulations. I realize to what degree we don't know, but given the amount of time that City was expected to conform, about two years, I think they did a grand job. Platini I would say something nasty but it would be beneath me.

 

[cibaman]

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Exactly. The twats at the EU commission are as bent as these fuckers at EUFA. They all have their noses in the trough so i wouldn't give too much weight to their opinion. It's the ECJ that counts.

Manchester City has been in permanent dialogue with EUFA about financial fair play. Did,t help us any

The EU commissioner said "I fully support the objectives of UEFA's FFP rules as I believe it is essential for football clubs to have a solid financial foundation." They are talking about UEFA's right to bring in restrictions and the objectives of FFP.

It will be blown away on compliance with Free market law which basically trumps everything.

Stay calm and just mow the lawn or something:

The EU do support the principle of FFP in so far as it leads to financial stability. But they obviously haven't supported the penalty regime because we're only just seeing it in action and there has to be a balance with the principle of not preventing competition.

 

[Stoned Rose]

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There should be a neutral watchdog style body to investigate these people , like Offwatt or Offgen .
It would obviously have to start with "off " but I can't think of anything to go with it to suit uefa's activities .
Perhaps one of you could think of something ..........

Fuckoff would do nicely.

 

[Stoned Rose]

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PSG have apparently accepted their punishment of £20m and no squad sanctions , is it any wonder we feel aggrieved , The old G14 are absolutely shitting themselves because of the rate of the rise of our club in 5 seasons , if we accept this punishment , UEFA will make it harder for us on an annual basis , they will bring in new rules and regs to specifically stop our growth. Fuck 'em , dont pay them a bean , and lets have our day in court , UEFA are effectively looking after the interests of 14 clubs and preventing the dreams of supporters of every other football club

Top post.

 

[Stoned Rose]

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At the risk of rattling anti-agendaist cages, does anyone else see anything sinister in the timing of Greg Dyke's initiative ?

Setting aside the involvement of former United director and "lifelong United fan", Greg Dyke, ably asssited no doubt by footballing intellectual and United player Rio Ferdinand, some of the less publicised proposals disturb me. For a start, there is a proposal to recommend a phased reduction in the number of non home-grown players in top flight squads from 17 to 12. this happens to coincide with a) our ability to compete in the overseas market, b) our ability to establish a global scouting network to rival the established cartel and c) the formation of a worldwide network of affiliated clubs.

Secondly, in terms of work permits, a cap on two non-EU players per squad. Looking at the current squad that's two from Yaya, Zab, Aguero and Fernandinho out. Not sure how that would affect teh United squad but I think I can guess. He also proposes that no players on overseas visas should be allowed to play below Premier league level. Where would that leave, for example, the Nigerian boys we signed to our academy recently ?

Something stinks here, and whilst the media is concentrating on the B team proposal, I think they may try to slip some of these rules into force.

What's worse is this idea that giving home grown youth players an easier practically enforced route into first teams will increase the quality of footballers we produce. It's absurd. All of a sudden 'Dave' (Promising English youngster) isn't having to fight it out with Silva and Nasri, he gets a pass based on his nationality. Does that make Dave better because he's now playing for the first team? Well, he may be a little bit better for playing first team football every week - Is it going to turn him from Jason Puncheon to Sergio Aguero? Of course it bloody isn't.

It really is infuriating stupid. It's the sort of idea a room of Rio Ferdinands would come up with.

Doesn't it also dictate what a human being can do based solely on where they're born/from?

Sounds just a tad racist-y to me. But then again this whole FFP thing seems to be anchored in racism.

 

[ForzaMancini]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

At the risk of rattling anti-agendaist cages, does anyone else see anything sinister in the timing of Greg Dyke's initiative ?

Setting aside the involvement of former United director and "lifelong United fan", Greg Dyke, ably asssited no doubt by footballing intellectual and United player Rio Ferdinand, some of the less publicised proposals disturb me. For a start, there is a proposal to recommend a phased reduction in the number of non home-grown players in top flight squads from 17 to 12. this happens to coincide with a) our ability to compete in the overseas market, b) our ability to establish a global scouting network to rival the established cartel and c) the formation of a worldwide network of affiliated clubs.

Secondly, in terms of work permits, a cap on two non-EU players per squad. Looking at the current squad that's two from Yaya, Zab, Aguero and Fernandinho out. Not sure how that would affect teh United squad but I think I can guess. He also proposes that no players on overseas visas should be allowed to play below Premier league level. Where would that leave, for example, the Nigerian boys we signed to our academy recently ?

Something stinks here, and whilst the media is concentrating on the B team proposal, I think they may try to slip some of these rules into force.

What's worse is this idea that giving home grown youth players an easier practically enforced route into first teams will increase the quality of footballers we produce. It's absurd. All of a sudden 'Dave' (Promising English youngster) isn't having to fight it out with Silva and Nasri, he gets a pass based on his nationality. Does that make Dave better because he's now playing for the first team? Well, he may be a little bit better for playing first team football every week - Is it going to turn him from Jason Puncheon to Sergio Aguero? Of course it bloody isn't.

It really is infuriating stupid. It's the sort of idea a room of Rio Ferdinands would come up with.

Doesn't it also dictate what a human being can do based solely on where they're born/from?

Sounds just a tad racist-y to me. But then again this whole FFP thing seems to be anchored in racism.

Pretty certain FA will got told to fuck off with their two non-EU player cap.

 

[Stoned Rose]

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What puzzles me, and I'm yet to hear a single rag, dipper or gooner, manager or pundit say anything about it.

As I see it, as was obviously sold to the Premier League Chairmen, thanks Niall. Isn't FFP about the long term protection and stability of football clubs.

Investment into infrastructure, growth, youth development and sustainability are the basis of FFP. Or apparently so.

So this rule or set of guidelines is designed to promote exactly what City are doing.

If indeed the regulations are indeed to help protect clubs. Why oh why is everyone so giddy to see what 'punishment' we get?

I assume this hullabaloo is unequivocal proof if at all any was needed that FFP is solely interested in protecting the elite.

Our long term future couldn't more secure. So is it about time someone alike us take this to task?

I've haven't heard Leeds or Pompy fans phoning in radio stations, posting on websites worried about our long term security.

This is the biggest load of hypocritical self deluding self absorbed shite I have ever witnessed.

Did all the clubs sign up to stop one or two clubs investing in everything from parks & flowers to Lionel Messi? Or for the good of sport? Or to help protect the sport and clubs from gambling their future on debt?

Perhaps we should suggest, ok, you've got us, we are a few months behind, trust us we'll sort it. As a gesture of good will we will give interest free unconditional loans of £10 million to Leeds, Portsmouth and Birmingham. Make it public, then find out what really is the purpose of this..

Perhaps we should suggest, ok, you've got us, we are a few months behind, trust us we'll sort it. As a gesture of good will we will give interest free unconditional loans of £10 million to Leeds, Portsmouth and Birmingham. Make it public, then find out what really is the purpose of this..

Genius.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

At the risk of rattling anti-agendaist cages, does anyone else see anything sinister in the timing of Greg Dyke's initiative ?

Setting aside the involvement of former United director and "lifelong United fan", Greg Dyke, ably asssited no doubt by footballing intellectual and United player Rio Ferdinand, some of the less publicised proposals disturb me. For a start, there is a proposal to recommend a phased reduction in the number of non home-grown players in top flight squads from 17 to 12. this happens to coincide with a) our ability to compete in the overseas market, b) our ability to establish a global scouting network to rival the established cartel and c) the formation of a worldwide network of affiliated clubs.

Secondly, in terms of work permits, a cap on two non-EU players per squad. Looking at the current squad that's two from Yaya, Zab, Aguero and Fernandinho out. Not sure how that would affect teh United squad but I think I can guess. He also proposes that no players on overseas visas should be allowed to play below Premier league level. Where would that leave, for example, the Nigerian boys we signed to our academy recently ?

Something stinks here, and whilst the media is concentrating on the B team proposal, I think they may try to slip some of these rules into force.

You convinced me......but then you know I'm an easy sell!

 

[Stoned Rose]

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So this is supposed to be about 'protecting' clubs from getting into financial difficulties or even going bust?

UEFA are trying to rinse us because they actually really care about us?

Does anyone genuinely think there would be a single rival club out there who would be upset if we went bust?

On the contrary, the 'Sky 4' and the CL clubs would be ecstatic.

The whole thing is so transparent it isn't even funny.

 

[paulchapo]

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There isn't any football fan who thinks this is a good idea except the fans of the greedy clubs who dreamt it up to protect their cosy little cartel and ensure they carried on buying all the best players and winning all the trophies.

Everyone can see it for what it is,even a few journalists have said so,therefore they need to get behind scrapping it,but they won't,it will have to take a court victory to blow it out of the water.