City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[City Raider]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

There should be a neutral watchdog style body to investigate these people , like Offwatt or Offgen .
It would obviously have to start with "off " but I can't think of anything to go with it to suit uefa's activities .
Perhaps one of you could think of something ..........

considering the french twat in charge, offwithhishead might work

 

[Newman Noggs]

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At the risk of rattling anti-agendaist cages, does anyone else see anything sinister in the timing of Greg Dyke's initiative ?

Setting aside the involvement of former United director and "lifelong United fan", Greg Dyke, ably asssited no doubt by footballing intellectual and United player Rio Ferdinand, some of the less publicised proposals disturb me. For a start, there is a proposal to recommend a phased reduction in the number of non home-grown players in top flight squads from 17 to 12. this happens to coincide with a) our ability to compete in the overseas market, b) our ability to establish a global scouting network to rival the established cartel and c) the formation of a worldwide network of affiliated clubs.

Secondly, in terms of work permits, a cap on two non-EU players per squad. Looking at the current squad that's two from Yaya, Zab, Aguero and Fernandinho out. Not sure how that would affect teh United squad but I think I can guess. He also proposes that no players on overseas visas should be allowed to play below Premier league level. Where would that leave, for example, the Nigerian boys we signed to our academy recently ?

Something stinks here, and whilst the media is concentrating on the B team proposal, I think they may try to slip some of these rules into force.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

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A great pity that Sheikh Mansour, Platini, gill and Rummenigge aren't all in the Freemasons together and all this would never have arisen. Seriously though, businessmen move in circles separate from the rest of society, and deals are made and often with sweeteners to oil the wheels. It may or may not be legitimate, depending on the reader's views, but it goes on and so does life. I just fail to see though how UEFA can set themselves up as unelected governors with the powers of judge and jury thrown in for good measure and with a mandate of such high ideals that somehow escape the rest of Europe's elected politicians. These UEFA officials are undoubtedly special. Let us hope that none of them are caught with their trousers down as we would surely be in tears at the impeding collapse of that Edifice.

 

[jonmcity]

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A great pity that Sheikh Mansour, Platini, gill and Rummenigge aren't all in the Freemasons together and all this would never have arisen. Seriously though, businessmen move in circles separate from the rest of society, and deals are made and often with sweeteners to oil the wheels. It may or may not be legitimate, depending on the reader's views, but it goes on and so does life. I just fail to see though how UEFA can set themselves up as unelected governors with the powers of judge and jury thrown in for good measure and with a mandate of such high ideals that somehow escape the rest of Europe's elected politicians. These UEFA officials are undoubtedly special. Let us hope that none of them are caught with their trousers down as we would surely be in tears at the impeding collapse of that Edifice.

If i had money i would have private investigators all over their private lives

 

[gmckennasell]

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PSG have apparently accepted their punishment of £20m and no squad sanctions , is it any wonder we feel aggrieved , The old G14 are absolutely shitting themselves because of the rate of the rise of our club in 5 seasons , if we accept this punishment , UEFA will make it harder for us on an annual basis , they will bring in new rules and regs to specifically stop our growth. Fuck 'em , dont pay them a bean , and lets have our day in court , UEFA are effectively looking after the interests of 14 clubs and preventing the dreams of supporters of every other football club

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

At the risk of rattling anti-agendaist cages, does anyone else see anything sinister in the timing of Greg Dyke's initiative ?

Setting aside the involvement of former United director and "lifelong United fan", Greg Dyke, ably asssited no doubt by footballing intellectual and United player Rio Ferdinand, some of the less publicised proposals disturb me. For a start, there is a proposal to recommend a phased reduction in the number of non home-grown players in top flight squads from 17 to 12. this happens to coincide with a) our ability to compete in the overseas market, b) our ability to establish a global scouting network to rival the established cartel and c) the formation of a worldwide network of affiliated clubs.

Secondly, in terms of work permits, a cap on two non-EU players per squad. Looking at the current squad that's two from Yaya, Zab, Aguero and Fernandinho out. Not sure how that would affect teh United squad but I think I can guess. He also proposes that no players on overseas visas should be allowed to play below Premier league level. Where would that leave, for example, the Nigerian boys we signed to our academy recently ?

Something stinks here, and whilst the media is concentrating on the B team proposal, I think they may try to slip some of these rules into force.

I'm sure I heard him throw in the little caveat about a cap on nonEU players about there being exceptions for " exceptional " players.
Which of our non Eu players are not exceptional ?
Who decides ?
More headline seeking from a man trying to justify his high salary by appearing to do something while not actually doing anything

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

At the risk of rattling anti-agendaist cages, does anyone else see anything sinister in the timing of Greg Dyke's initiative ?

Setting aside the involvement of former United director and "lifelong United fan", Greg Dyke, ably asssited no doubt by footballing intellectual and United player Rio Ferdinand, some of the less publicised proposals disturb me. For a start, there is a proposal to recommend a phased reduction in the number of non home-grown players in top flight squads from 17 to 12. this happens to coincide with a) our ability to compete in the overseas market, b) our ability to establish a global scouting network to rival the established cartel and c) the formation of a worldwide network of affiliated clubs.

Secondly, in terms of work permits, a cap on two non-EU players per squad. Looking at the current squad that's two from Yaya, Zab, Aguero and Fernandinho out. Not sure how that would affect teh United squad but I think I can guess. He also proposes that no players on overseas visas should be allowed to play below Premier league level. Where would that leave, for example, the Nigerian boys we signed to our academy recently ?

Something stinks here, and whilst the media is concentrating on the B team proposal, I think they may try to slip some of these rules into force.

I wouldn't worry about these rules the premier league would never allow it they would lose to much tv money/sponsorship.

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

At the risk of rattling anti-agendaist cages, does anyone else see anything sinister in the timing of Greg Dyke's initiative ?

Setting aside the involvement of former United director and "lifelong United fan", Greg Dyke, ably asssited no doubt by footballing intellectual and United player Rio Ferdinand, some of the less publicised proposals disturb me. For a start, there is a proposal to recommend a phased reduction in the number of non home-grown players in top flight squads from 17 to 12. this happens to coincide with a) our ability to compete in the overseas market, b) our ability to establish a global scouting network to rival the established cartel and c) the formation of a worldwide network of affiliated clubs.

Secondly, in terms of work permits, a cap on two non-EU players per squad. Looking at the current squad that's two from Yaya, Zab, Aguero and Fernandinho out. Not sure how that would affect teh United squad but I think I can guess. He also proposes that no players on overseas visas should be allowed to play below Premier league level. Where would that leave, for example, the Nigerian boys we signed to our academy recently ?

Something stinks here, and whilst the media is concentrating on the B team proposal, I think they may try to slip some of these rules into force.

Nearly all Argies have EU passports thesedays - many have Italian ancestry so no probs with them - Brazilians too with Portugal I think

 

[adrianr]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

At the risk of rattling anti-agendaist cages, does anyone else see anything sinister in the timing of Greg Dyke's initiative ?

Setting aside the involvement of former United director and "lifelong United fan", Greg Dyke, ably asssited no doubt by footballing intellectual and United player Rio Ferdinand, some of the less publicised proposals disturb me. For a start, there is a proposal to recommend a phased reduction in the number of non home-grown players in top flight squads from 17 to 12. this happens to coincide with a) our ability to compete in the overseas market, b) our ability to establish a global scouting network to rival the established cartel and c) the formation of a worldwide network of affiliated clubs.

Secondly, in terms of work permits, a cap on two non-EU players per squad. Looking at the current squad that's two from Yaya, Zab, Aguero and Fernandinho out. Not sure how that would affect teh United squad but I think I can guess. He also proposes that no players on overseas visas should be allowed to play below Premier league level. Where would that leave, for example, the Nigerian boys we signed to our academy recently ?

Something stinks here, and whilst the media is concentrating on the B team proposal, I think they may try to slip some of these rules into force.

What's worse is this idea that giving home grown youth players an easier practically enforced route into first teams will increase the quality of footballers we produce. It's absurd. All of a sudden 'Dave' (Promising English youngster) isn't having to fight it out with Silva and Nasri, he gets a pass based on his nationality. Does that make Dave better because he's now playing for the first team? Well, he may be a little bit better for playing first team football every week - Is it going to turn him from Jason Puncheon to Sergio Aguero? Of course it bloody isn't.

It really is infuriating stupid. It's the sort of idea a room of Rio Ferdinands would come up with.

 

[schfc6]

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What puzzles me, and I'm yet to hear a single rag, dipper or gooner, manager or pundit say anything about it.

As I see it, as was obviously sold to the Premier League Chairmen, thanks Niall. Isn't FFP about the long term protection and stability of football clubs.

Investment into infrastructure, growth, youth development and sustainability are the basis of FFP. Or apparently so.

So this rule or set of guidelines is designed to promote exactly what City are doing.

If indeed the regulations are indeed to help protect clubs. Why oh why is everyone so giddy to see what 'punishment' we get?

I assume this hullabaloo is unequivocal proof if at all any was needed that FFP is solely interested in protecting the elite.

Our long term future couldn't more secure. So is it about time someone alike us take this to task?

I've haven't heard Leeds or Pompy fans phoning in radio stations, posting on websites worried about our long term security.

This is the biggest load of hypocritical self deluding self absorbed shite I have ever witnessed.

Did all the clubs sign up to stop one or two clubs investing in everything from parks & flowers to Lionel Messi? Or for the good of sport? Or to help protect the sport and clubs from gambling their future on debt?

Perhaps we should suggest, ok, you've got us, we are a few months behind, trust us we'll sort it. As a gesture of good will we will give interest free unconditional loans of £10 million to Leeds, Portsmouth and Birmingham. Make it public, then find out what really is the purpose of this..