City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[Pam]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

It surely depends on what view is taken on the Etihad deal. That holds the key.[/quote]

Mail says the Etihad deal isn't the problem (warning: reading this article might make you want to cut your throat)

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2625288/Man-Citys-title-win-years-decide-battle-UEFA-sanction-breaking-FFP-rules.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... rules.html</a>[/quote]

They're right. Twattini is the problem.

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

It surely depends on what view is taken on the Etihad deal. That holds the key.

Mail says the Etihad deal isn't the problem (warning: reading this article might make you want to cut your throat)

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2625288/Man-Citys-title-win-years-decide-battle-UEFA-sanction-breaking-FFP-rules.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... rules.html</a>[/quote]

They're right. Twattini is the problem.[/quote]

They´re wrong - Gill and his acolytes are the problem - the Fail would not want to upset the rag applecart though for obvious reasons

 

[Hart of the Matter]

City & FFP (continued)

If we opt out of Europe next year then are our accounts not scrutinised the following year like Liverpools this year? Do we start from scratch as far as FFP is concerned.?

 

[mac]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

If we win today with more sponsors wanting to be linked with the champions and the tv and prem money it must be worth 150 mil surely .

 

[SWP's back]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Last minute deal or settlement is my best guess too on this whole thing.

Too much to lose for both sides to go further from here to CAS etc.

The best interest of the club will have to decide not personal feelings. Us being in the CL for years is the clubs best interest in terms of building the brand bigger and bigger. We need lot of new fans buying shirts in China, USA etc. Soriano told it clearly. CL success is a big way of doing next to building a team that plays great football, great style, and wins trophies with that style what is already in place.

I keep reading things like this, but I must respectively disagree. There is far more for City to lose than UEFA unfortunately, as the latter's piss taking stance amply demonstrates

There is nothing for City to lose. They won't accept a big fine at all. They don't believe they have broken the rules.

 

[bluesoup]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

If we win today with more sponsors wanting to be linked with the champions and the tv and prem money it must be worth 150 mil surely .

good point. If we win with all this FFP malarkey, more Sponsors should come a knocking .

 

[citysix]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

UEFA v the might of Abu Dhabi ..oniy one winner # champions

 

[yeah whatever !!]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Ok, just so I can get my head round FFP...

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Looking at that, if we have been adjudged to have failed FFP by a hefty amount, due to not being allowed to exclude pre-2010 contracts (around 80m), we're definitely going to fail again next year unless this year's accounts (which end May 31?) can make up for it. However, this is not going to happen given that the expected increase in revenue (up 60m from 270m to 330m - as per Soriano's UAE presentation - and and any decrease in wages - no managerial pay offs) will be eaten up by last summer's net transfer spend (Negredo et al)


So, all in all, those pre-2010 contracts are going to act like a ball and chain until after next year's break even point when the 2011-2012 no longer applies.

Is this correct?

If so, I could see us being excluded from the 2015/2016 Champions League because the noise to chuck us out, having failed 2 break even points in a row, will be deafening

It surely depends on what view is taken on the Etihad deal. That holds the key.

Mail says the Etihad deal isn't the problem (warning: reading this article might make you want to cut your throat)

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2625288/Man-Citys-title-win-years-decide-battle-UEFA-sanction-breaking-FFP-rules.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... rules.html</a>

Tbh Id rather cut my throat than give them cunts a hit.. cut and paste it fella.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

I'm absolutely sure that the Etihad deal has been allowed - Even UEFA are not stupid enough to challenge ISA24.
What has been ruled out are the sales of IPR and Image Rights.

That said, unless UEFA back down, it is war. City will only accept a warning as to future conduct with possibly a small fine Simon Mullock in the mirror has it spot on.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-face-expulsion-champions-3522775" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ns-3522775</a>

City’s lawyers have been building a case to destroy FFP in its current guise for the last three years.

In case nobody was watching City have been having meetings with UEFA for the last 3 years to try and comply. Every last meeting and action on both parties will have been minuted. Keeping your enemy close has been the rules of City's game. As a result City will have been given clear guidance on the minutiae of every FFP regulation and City revenue stream.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

I'm absolutely sure that the Etihad deal has been allowed - Even UEFA are not stupid enough to challenge ISA24.
What has been ruled out are the sales of IPR and Image Rights.

That said, unless UEFA back down, it is war. City will only accept a warning as to future conduct with possibly a small fine Simon Mullock in the mirror has it spot on.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-face-expulsion-champions-3522775" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ns-3522775</a>

City’s lawyers have been building a case to destroy FFP in its current guise for the last three years.

In case nobody was watching City have been having meetings with UEFA for the last 3 years to try and comply. Every last meeting and action on both parties will have been minuted. Keeping your enemy close has been the rules of City's game. As a result City will have been given clear guidance on the minutiae of every FFP regulation and City revenue stream.

Pretty impressive for a high street firm of solicitors from Altrincham.