City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Re: City & FFP (continued)

I know this is a daft question in all this ffp bollocks but i'll ask anyway
Say club A Buys a player from club B for X million pounds and then proceeds to fail ffp because of this transfer should club B be allowed to use the cash received for this transfer in its ffp calculation as it shouldn't really have received the said amount as club A should not have spent it in the first place.Gives club B an unfair advantage when everything is all about being fair
ps
I know it's a load of crap but so is ffp
 
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goalmole said:
dctid said:
jrb said:
One thing is for sure, FFPR has now killed the truly big money transfer/s, unless it is part or whole funded by a sponsor/sponsorship deal.

If Messi would have been available(he has just signed a new contract), which club could have afforded his £120mill buyout clause and wages?

What it FFPR has stopped, and was probably one of the pillars of FFPR that the cartel clubs wanted and introduced, is that billionaire owners like Sheikh Mansour can no longer use 'their personal wealth' to buy those players, or at least to tempt them.

Make no mistake about it, If FFPR hadn't been brought in, Sheikh Mansour and City would have tried to sign Messi, as (transfer and wage) money wouldn't have been a problem.

The big money transfers will still happen but the clubs able to do them will be limited to three maybe four

It preserves the current elite, maintains the status quo and crucially now means that no other team can do a City or PSG

Competative football in Europe will stagnate as the same old teams continue to rwach finals and semi finals
The value and wages of these big money will either drop, stagnate or not rise as much because there will be a smaller pool of potential buyers.

The other side of the coin is that Christmas has come early for the "homegrown" players. It is clear from the media that the agents of Milner, Boyata and Richards and working overdrive to get the best possible deals for their clients, wherever that may be!!
 
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dctid said:
jrb said:
One thing is for sure, FFPR has now killed the truly big money transfer/s, unless it is part or whole funded by a sponsor/sponsorship deal.

If Messi would have been available(he has just signed a new contract), which club could have afforded his £120mill buyout clause and wages?

What it FFPR has stopped, and was probably one of the pillars of FFPR that the cartel clubs wanted and introduced, is that billionaire owners like Sheikh Mansour can no longer use 'their personal wealth' to buy those players, or at least to tempt them.

Make no mistake about it, If FFPR hadn't been brought in, Sheikh Mansour and City would have tried to sign Messi, as (transfer and wage) money wouldn't have been a problem.

The big money transfers will still happen but the clubs able to do them will be limited to three maybe four

It preserves the current elite, maintains the status quo and crucially now means that no other team can do a City or PSG

Competative football in Europe will stagnate as the same old teams continue to rwach finals and semi finals

FFP has worked then?
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Success of Manchester City = Success For UAE

Success of Manchester City = Success For UAE

by Shuaib B Ahmed
on May 18, 2014
in General
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I once read somewhere that a fascination with football is the narcotic of an East Londoner waiting eagerly to escape into a daydream. Feeling euphoric, he longs for a moment to be part of a bigger whole. But, to what extent is celebrating the success of a team becomes a narcotic for us?

It can be said with an apparent pride that football in England is a religion. While we hold back from labeling the nation as gods in the sport, we associate the nation with those “who brought football upon us” – here in the UAE. Yes, they did, through British soldiers, who were present in the country due to mutual political motives during the early 19th century. Since then, football slowly crept into the lives of the locals compelling them to accept it as part of their lives. The rest was history.

Accomplishments of a team in a different country, a different continent normally does not result in intense celebrations in a country that’s 3.5K miles away.

Of course, it was not the first time that we celebrated the victory of a team as if it was our own national team. Manchester City regaining the title as


Premier League Champions was more importantly – a proud moment for the people of United Arab Emirates.
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Courtesy of MCFC.com

The fortunes of Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan has given us a sense of irresistible pride as we delve further into the colors of City. Having managed to win a few titles already, the most significant achievement to date was to secure the belief and trust of skeptical City supporters and those who have come to see the club as the next headline maker in the arena of European football, even if their interests are different from Manchester City.

The matter of pride extends to the point where the overwhelming presence of the nation can be visible, in and around the stadium, be it through ad hoardings, gestures towards Sheikh Mansour and so on. Credit goes out to Chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak, who accepted the challenge set by the Sheikh Mansour and worked quickly with great responsibility to win the satisfaction of his English peers, who normally are hard to please.

The country had invested a lot into the club – through principal sponsors Etihad Airways to Etisalat, Aabar and Abu Dhabi Tourism and rightly so with this title win, Manchester City has returned the favor. Their success has triggered an awareness campaign with UAE as a nation, being the chief recipient.

Moreover, there could not be any sight, which could explain the feeling, better than that of several Sheikhs’ from Dubai and Abu Dhabi, celebrating the victory together.

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All we have achieved is what any country with similar interests in the same circumstance would have expected to achieve. As media goes cerebral over geometric outcomes, we (the nation) shall enjoy the various perks of being tagged with the champions of the English Premier League.<a class="postlink" href="http://www.footynions.com/2014/05/18/success-manchester-city-success-uae/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.footynions.com/2014/05/18/su ... ccess-uae/</a>
 
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I'm still confused. Can anyone provide a definitive list of our "punishment "? What fines are payable, what limits are on our squad size, how much we are allowed to spend on transfers each season, what we have to do to remove the sanctions and how long the respective punishments last for?
 
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maurizio said:
I'm still confused. Can anyone provide a definitive list of our "punishment "? What fines are payable, what limits are on our squad size, how much we are allowed to spend on transfers each season, what we have to do to remove the sanctions and how long the respective punishments last for?

Call +41 (0) 848 00 2727 and ask for M. Platini.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

maurizio said:
I'm still confused. Can anyone provide a definitive list of our "punishment "? What fines are payable, what limits are on our squad size, how much we are allowed to spend on transfers each season, what we have to do to remove the sanctions and how long the respective punishments last for?
-21 man squad for next years champions league
-£49m limit on transfer spending (plus any money made from sales) for next 2 seasons(£49m each season)
-No increase to overall wage bill (bonuses are exempt)
-£10m withheld from champions league prize money for each of next two seasons (doesn't seem to affect ffp calculation)
-Can't lose more than £20m this season, £10m next season

On the plus side, all sponsorships are ok and the club aren't worried about the squad restrictions.
 
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aguero93:20 said:
maurizio said:
I'm still confused. Can anyone provide a definitive list of our "punishment "? What fines are payable, what limits are on our squad size, how much we are allowed to spend on transfers each season, what we have to do to remove the sanctions and how long the respective punishments last for?
-21 man squad for next years champions league
-£49m limit on transfer spending (plus any money made from sales) for next 2 seasons(£49m each season)
-No increase to overall wage bill (bonuses are exempt)
-£10m withheld from champions league prize money for each of next two seasons (doesn't seem to affect ffp calculation)
-Can't lose more than £20m this season, £10m next season

On the plus side, all sponsorships are ok and the club aren't worried about the squad restrictions.

Next two seasons? It's a controversial point
 
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Ducado said:
aguero93:20 said:
-21 man squad for next years champions league
-£49m limit on transfer spending (plus any money made from sales) for next 2 seasons(£49m each season)
-No increase to overall wage bill (bonuses are exempt)
-£10m withheld from champions league prize money for each of next two seasons (doesn't seem to affect ffp calculation)
-Can't lose more than £20m this season, £10m next season

On the plus side, all sponsorships are ok and the club aren't worried about the squad restrictions.

Next two seasons? It's a controversial point
For spending limits? The Statements say we'll be operating without restriction at the start of the 15/16 champions league competition, I take that to include both summer windows and the first winter one, january 2016 shouldn't be affected though. Club are still leaving a couple of things open to interpretation though, maybe they don't want our rivals knowing any more than they have to?
The wage bill is for two seasons though, nearly positive on that one.
 
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TBH I can't see City spending in the January transfer window for a while.

I appreciate City tried to sign the Port pair this January, but given what we know now, was it more to do with dotting the i's and crossing the t's with Porto and the two players in question, rather than actually signing them in January?
 

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