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Re: City & FFP (continued)

Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
jrb said:
Success of Manchester City = Success For UAE

Success of Manchester City = Success For UAE

by Shuaib B Ahmed
on May 18, 2014
in General
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I once read somewhere that a fascination with football is the narcotic of an East Londoner waiting eagerly to escape into a daydream. Feeling euphoric, he longs for a moment to be part of a bigger whole. But, to what extent is celebrating the success of a team becomes a narcotic for us?

It can be said with an apparent pride that football in England is a religion. While we hold back from labeling the nation as gods in the sport, we associate the nation with those “who brought football upon us” – here in the UAE. Yes, they did, through British soldiers, who were present in the country due to mutual political motives during the early 19th century. Since then, football slowly crept into the lives of the locals compelling them to accept it as part of their lives. The rest was history.

Accomplishments of a team in a different country, a different continent normally does not result in intense celebrations in a country that’s 3.5K miles away.

Of course, it was not the first time that we celebrated the victory of a team as if it was our own national team. Manchester City regaining the title as


Premier League Champions was more importantly – a proud moment for the people of United Arab Emirates.
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Courtesy of MCFC.com

The fortunes of Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan has given us a sense of irresistible pride as we delve further into the colors of City. Having managed to win a few titles already, the most significant achievement to date was to secure the belief and trust of skeptical City supporters and those who have come to see the club as the next headline maker in the arena of European football, even if their interests are different from Manchester City.

The matter of pride extends to the point where the overwhelming presence of the nation can be visible, in and around the stadium, be it through ad hoardings, gestures towards Sheikh Mansour and so on. Credit goes out to Chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak, who accepted the challenge set by the Sheikh Mansour and worked quickly with great responsibility to win the satisfaction of his English peers, who normally are hard to please.

The country had invested a lot into the club – through principal sponsors Etihad Airways to Etisalat, Aabar and Abu Dhabi Tourism and rightly so with this title win, Manchester City has returned the favor. Their success has triggered an awareness campaign with UAE as a nation, being the chief recipient.

Moreover, there could not be any sight, which could explain the feeling, better than that of several Sheikhs’ from Dubai and Abu Dhabi, celebrating the victory together.

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All we have achieved is what any country with similar interests in the same circumstance would have expected to achieve. As media goes cerebral over geometric outcomes, we (the nation) shall enjoy the various perks of being tagged with the champions of the English Premier League.<a class="postlink" href="http://www.footynions.com/2014/05/18/success-manchester-city-success-uae/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.footynions.com/2014/05/18/su ... ccess-uae/</a>

Is it me or in that first photo is SM indicating 5 with his right hand? 5 leaving? 5 coming in?

He is, and Ferran is clearly indicating four.

Board room rift?
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

gordondaviesmoustache said:
M18CTID said:
Apologies if this question has already been asked. How realistic is it that a "directly affected" club will appeal these sanctions? I'd have thought that on balance it isn't worth doing because an appeal won't necessarily lead to greater sanctions being applied (it could even go the other way and we get a more lenient penalty), plus any club appealing could well piss us off to the extent that we refuse to do any future business with them.
Not sure on the UEFA definition of "directly affected" but seeing as we've complied with Premier League FFP, which both Everton and Arsenal voted for, it's difficult to see either of those two clubs mounting a successful challenge. Surely, if it was to come from anywhere it would be CSKA Moscow or Pilsen as they are (or were, rather) "directly affected" by our putative non-compliance with FFP in the years to which our "non-compliance" applied. If we undisputedly abided by the rules of the Premier League last season how could anyone be "directly affected" by that? In that sense Arsenal may be hoisted by their own petard.


Arsenal and Everton have been 'indirectly affected' by our "non-compliance" with UEFA FFP imo.

Very good point GDM - perhaps UEFA should clearly define what constitutes a "directly affected" party.
 
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M18CTID said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
M18CTID said:
Apologies if this question has already been asked. How realistic is it that a "directly affected" club will appeal these sanctions? I'd have thought that on balance it isn't worth doing because an appeal won't necessarily lead to greater sanctions being applied (it could even go the other way and we get a more lenient penalty), plus any club appealing could well piss us off to the extent that we refuse to do any future business with them.
Not sure on the UEFA definition of "directly affected" but seeing as we've complied with Premier League FFP, which both Everton and Arsenal voted for, it's difficult to see either of those two clubs mounting a successful challenge. Surely, if it was to come from anywhere it would be CSKA Moscow or Pilsen as they are (or were, rather) "directly affected" by our putative non-compliance with FFP in the years to which our "non-compliance" applied. If we undisputedly abided by the rules of the Premier League last season how could anyone be "directly affected" by that? In that sense Arsenal may be hoisted by their own petard.


Arsenal and Everton have been 'indirectly affected' by our "non-compliance" with UEFA FFP imo.

Very good point GDM - perhaps UEFA should clearly define what constitutes a "directly affected" party.
I suppose they would argue that they were "directly affected" because we weren't excluded, which was a sanction theoretically available to UEFA, but as this was never on the agenda, stated or implied, it's difficult to see where that argument will take them.

Perhaps this has been recently explained to Wenger, hence his tirade the other day. I do hope so.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
M18CTID said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not sure on the UEFA definition of "directly affected" but seeing as we've complied with Premier League FFP, which both Everton and Arsenal voted for, it's difficult to see either of those two clubs mounting a successful challenge. Surely, if it was to come from anywhere it would be CSKA Moscow or Pilsen as they are (or were, rather) "directly affected" by our putative non-compliance with FFP in the years to which our "non-compliance" applied. If we undisputedly abided by the rules of the Premier League last season how could anyone be "directly affected" by that? In that sense Arsenal may be hoisted by their own petard.


Arsenal and Everton have been 'indirectly affected' by our "non-compliance" with UEFA FFP imo.

Very good point GDM - perhaps UEFA should clearly define what constitutes a "directly affected" party.
I suppose they would argue that they were "directly affected" because we weren't excluded, which was a sanction theoretically available to UEFA, but as this was never on the agenda, stated or implied, it's difficult to see where that argument will take them.

Perhaps this has been recently explained to Wenger, hence his tirade the other day. I do hope so.

Yes, they could argue that of course but as you say UEFA has always made it clear that expulsion wouldn't be a consideration for a first-time offence. Wenger's an idiot if he thinks it was ever a possibility this time round - for someone who claims to be so in favour of FFP, he seems to be less clued up on the regs than many of us on here.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

M18CTID said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
M18CTID said:
Very good point GDM - perhaps UEFA should clearly define what constitutes a "directly affected" party.
I suppose they would argue that they were "directly affected" because we weren't excluded, which was a sanction theoretically available to UEFA, but as this was never on the agenda, stated or implied, it's difficult to see where that argument will take them.

Perhaps this has been recently explained to Wenger, hence his tirade the other day. I do hope so.

Yes, they could argue that of course but as you say UEFA has always made it clear that expulsion wouldn't be a consideration for a first-time offence. Wenger's an idiot if he thinks it was ever a possibility this time round - for someone who claims to be so in favour of FFP, he seems to be less clued up on the regs than many of us on here.
Apart from PB ;-)
 
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St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Jeez-not been on for 24hrs

Any updates of note?


Nope

No fucker still knows anything even after 858 pages of diatribe

Let's be honest all the theories are great but until City state in public exactly what is going on we'll just get another 858 pages of diatribe
 
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I am sure the sheikh reminded his father in law to remind arsenal to remember who their main sponsor is before they do anything silly!

Everton won't get much air time as they won't bring much money or many viewers to the party so UEFA would rather us there. The real test for an appeal would've been if the rags had finished 5th
 
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George Hannah said:
mcfcinprague said:
Let's be honest all the theories are great but until City state in public exactly what is going on we'll just get another 858 pages of diatribe
are you implying that discussion on this forum is in some sense tribal?
I think it is. And I, for one, have great respect for the Elders.
 

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