City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[goalmole]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

While I'm sure that the club could not put their name to any such action, we should, in the very least, guage their view on this.

IMO, it'd be the last thing the club would want.

This is the danger due to potential effects on brand, sponsors etc and we should look into this first. However it is possible that it may be encouraged if they see it as an alternative and removed action. If we are given the club's green light I would passionately support any move to reverse the injustice and fat cat bullying at the top end of the football business.

I've tried to say this in a few of my previous posts, so i'm in danger of sounding like a broken record but FFP suits our owners to the ground just at this moment in time. We have to realise that our owners aren't football fans like us, they're businessmen and politicians. They've had 5 years to challenge FFP in the courts if that was the route they really wanted to go, instead of which they have chosen to work inside the framework rather than oppose it. The reason for this, i would submit, is that now we are on the verge of breaking even and are becoming successful on the field FFP will no longer affect us because all the upfront expenditure has been made to get us where we are and the club will now become self financing and self sustaining. Why would our owners having gone to all this trouble now want to open a door for other investors to buy other clubs and do the the same as us thereby creating unwanted competition for revenue and trophies when UEFA have gone to all this trouble to close it for them. Is it fair? No it's not. Is it right for our owners investment with City? You bet.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

I have said it before and will say it again.... ffp is designed to keep the top european clubs... at the top!

Without spending millions no other team can break into that monopoly, you get a good team together and a big club comes in and buys the best players (Bale). If you want to win the prem you had to have big money (Bburn, Leeds etc)

And now they are closing that door. Which means the Utds' & RM's with their "big" income will stay top.

We fans have to do something imo, placards, protests highlighting the monopoly that ffp supports ... and that platini is a f..... dicktwat

You'll just get fans banned from future UEFA matches for "political protests" etc., the best way is to quietly support Dupont, making a fuss just means UEFA will take it out on the club, and the club has to present itself as being on side.

we need a fucking riot(I could do with a new telly)

disclaimer::
for the internet police I don't really mean it,it was a joke a poor one I know,and in no way would support or take part in any riot or any other unrest that was unlawful or encourage other to do like wise,i have no criminal record except a speeding ticket,however I went on a drivers awareness course and have seen the error of my ways and have change my driving habits and and am now more considerate to other roads users except wankers on bikes,however I will admit to being impolite to some road users who display united flags,kits ect in their cars,but they do look like wankers any way.

your in honestistnessus
Sir Peace Frog

pps,i accept most people on bikes aren't wankers,and has been pointed out to me by a relative whom is rarely if ever wrong,that its usually my fault the people on bikes start flapping,something about my bb gun and bikers arses.

fuck me im waffling today

 

[Bozzie]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

No not really.

Yeah ok, ask a fucking stupid question and at all that...

its pretty simple really.

first off we weren't going to fail ffp because a few experts on bluemoon explained where we would be fine
then there was a rumour we had failed ffp
then eufa were accused of skulduggery
the experts on bluemoon were accused of skulduggery
I accused the wife of skulduggery
then city got fined some money depending on what you read,its 60m euros
then its 10m euros for two years
then a fat man fell off his ladders
bm decided it was an arab hitman
some people got upset about people making jokes about someone dying
city then released a statement saying this,that and the other
everybody wanted city to take platini to court ,but didn't know what for,because nobody understands the ffp rules except the bm experts
the bm experts are now telling us we will be ok because city have got it all under control,a bit like city had ffp under control until we failed
im still no nearer understanding anything about ffp and neither is the wife,cos she isn't interested in football
the ffp thread keeps growing and growing,people don't know what they are talking about so ask stupid questions(see my posts)
people get abused for asking stupid question
and it goes on and on and on and on
its a great thread to be fair,not sure ive told you everything but hey ho,and I hope ive helped

oh and some people want to make placards and wave them at anybody that looks remotely European and try and startle them into changing their minds on ffp
and wenger wants city booting out of the champs league,not to mention some bluemooners who reckon we should boycott the champs league,im a bit thick but wanting to boycott £50m to spite platini fucking hell,take that platini shove you £50m up your arse ,ah bon bon monsieur city

Well, thank fuck someone's got a handle on it!

 

[The Colonel]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

IMO, it'd be the last thing the club would want.

This is the danger due to potential effects on brand, sponsors etc and we should look into this first. However it is possible that it may be encouraged if they see it as an alternative and removed action. If we are given the club's green light I would passionately support any move to reverse the injustice and fat cat bullying at the top end of the football business.

I've tried to say this in a few of my previous posts, so i'm in danger of sounding like a broken record but FFP suits our owners to the ground just at this moment in time. We have to realise that our owners aren't football fans like us, they're businessmen and politicians. They've had 5 years to challenge FFP in the courts if that was the route they really wanted to go, instead of which they have chosen to work inside the framework rather than oppose it. The reason for this, i would submit, is that now we are on the verge of breaking even and are becoming successful on the field FFP will no longer affect us because all the upfront expenditure has been made to get us where we are and the club will now become self financing and self sustaining. Why would our owners having gone to all this trouble now want to open a door for other investors to buy other clubs and do the the same as us thereby creating unwanted competition for revenue and trophies when UEFA have gone to all this trouble to close it for them. Is it fair? No it's not. Is it right for our owners investment with City? You bet.

... Quite likely, therefore a quick consultation with the club would make this clear before anyone wastes time and resources on a fans' legal challenge.

 

[Petrovs left peg]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

I have said it before and will say it again.... ffp is designed to keep the top european clubs... at the top!

Without spending millions no other team can break into that monopoly, you get a good team together and a big club comes in and buys the best players (Bale). If you want to win the prem you had to have big money (Bburn, Leeds etc)

And now they are closing that door. Which means the Utds' & RM's with their "big" income will stay top.

We fans have to do something imo, placards, protests highlighting the monopoly that ffp supports ... and that platini is a f..... dicktwat

I'm glad we have a conclusion after 870 pages. thanks

 

[Pam]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

IMO, it'd be the last thing the club would want.

This is the danger due to potential effects on brand, sponsors etc and we should look into this first. However it is possible that it may be encouraged if they see it as an alternative and removed action. If we are given the club's green light I would passionately support any move to reverse the injustice and fat cat bullying at the top end of the football business.

I've tried to say this in a few of my previous posts, so i'm in danger of sounding like a broken record but FFP suits our owners to the ground just at this moment in time. We have to realise that our owners aren't football fans like us, they're businessmen and politicians. They've had 5 years to challenge FFP in the courts if that was the route they really wanted to go, instead of which they have chosen to work inside the framework rather than oppose it. The reason for this, i would submit, is that now we are on the verge of breaking even and are becoming successful on the field FFP will no longer affect us because all the upfront expenditure has been made to get us where we are and the club will now become self financing and self sustaining. Why would our owners having gone to all this trouble now want to open a door for other investors to buy other clubs and do the the same as us thereby creating unwanted competition for revenue and trophies when UEFA have gone to all this trouble to close it for them. Is it fair? No it's not. Is it right for our owners investment with City? You bet.

I agree. I mean I think our ship has sailed. But its a desperately unfair situation for the likes of Everton and Villa if Uefa lock up the biggest or richest ten or so European clubs and preserve their supremacy in aspic for all time. This is a twatty thing that they are doing whether it affects us very much or not.

 

[Centurions]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Yeah ok, ask a fucking stupid question and at all that...

its pretty simple really.

first off we weren't going to fail ffp because a few experts on bluemoon explained where we would be fine
then there was a rumour we had failed ffp
then eufa were accused of skulduggery
the experts on bluemoon were accused of skulduggery
I accused the wife of skulduggery
then city got fined some money depending on what you read,its 60m euros
then its 10m euros for two years
then a fat man fell off his ladders
bm decided it was an arab hitman
some people got upset about people making jokes about someone dying
city then released a statement saying this,that and the other
everybody wanted city to take platini to court ,but didn't know what for,because nobody understands the ffp rules except the bm experts
the bm experts are now telling us we will be ok because city have got it all under control,a bit like city had ffp under control until we failed
im still no nearer understanding anything about ffp and neither is the wife,cos she isn't interested in football
the ffp thread keeps growing and growing,people don't know what they are talking about so ask stupid questions(see my posts)
people get abused for asking stupid question
and it goes on and on and on and on
its a great thread to be fair,not sure ive told you everything but hey ho,and I hope ive helped

oh and some people want to make placards and wave them at anybody that looks remotely European and try and startle them into changing their minds on ffp
and wenger wants city booting out of the champs league,not to mention some bluemooners who reckon we should boycott the champs league,im a bit thick but wanting to boycott £50m to spite platini fucking hell,take that platini shove you £50m up your arse ,ah bon bon monsieur city

Well, thank fuck someone's got a handle on it!

All the UEFA sanctions are linked here from UEFA's own website :- http://www.uefa.org/disciplinary/club-financial-controlling-body/cases/index.html

 

[goalmole]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

This is the danger due to potential effects on brand, sponsors etc and we should look into this first. However it is possible that it may be encouraged if they see it as an alternative and removed action. If we are given the club's green light I would passionately support any move to reverse the injustice and fat cat bullying at the top end of the football business.

I've tried to say this in a few of my previous posts, so i'm in danger of sounding like a broken record but FFP suits our owners to the ground just at this moment in time. We have to realise that our owners aren't football fans like us, they're businessmen and politicians. They've had 5 years to challenge FFP in the courts if that was the route they really wanted to go, instead of which they have chosen to work inside the framework rather than oppose it. The reason for this, i would submit, is that now we are on the verge of breaking even and are becoming successful on the field FFP will no longer affect us because all the upfront expenditure has been made to get us where we are and the club will now become self financing and self sustaining. Why would our owners having gone to all this trouble now want to open a door for other investors to buy other clubs and do the the same as us thereby creating unwanted competition for revenue and trophies when UEFA have gone to all this trouble to close it for them. Is it fair? No it's not. Is it right for our owners investment with City? You bet.

I agree. I mean I think our ship has sailed. But its a desperately unfair situation for the likes of Everton and Villa if Uefa lock up the biggest or richest ten or so European clubs and preserve their supremacy in aspic for all time. This is a twatty thing that they are doing whether it affects us very much or not.

Personally i totally agree that it is an unfair situation, but it isn,t one of our choosing. I think the club have come to terms with it and have made plans to work round and exploit it, hence the Yokohama/ Nissan deal that has been announced today. I'm sure us fans causing a ruckus now will harm City more than help it. All we can realistically do is let the Club deal with it as they see fit and let others fight that particular battle if they feel they must.

 

[hgblue]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

IMO, it'd be the last thing the club would want.

This is the danger due to potential effects on brand, sponsors etc and we should look into this first. However it is possible that it may be encouraged if they see it as an alternative and removed action. If we are given the club's green light I would passionately support any move to reverse the injustice and fat cat bullying at the top end of the football business.

I've tried to say this in a few of my previous posts, so i'm in danger of sounding like a broken record but FFP suits our owners to the ground just at this moment in time. We have to realise that our owners aren't football fans like us, they're businessmen and politicians. They've had 5 years to challenge FFP in the courts if that was the route they really wanted to go, instead of which they have chosen to work inside the framework rather than oppose it. The reason for this, i would submit, is that now we are on the verge of breaking even and are becoming successful on the field FFP will no longer affect us because all the upfront expenditure has been made to get us where we are and the club will now become self financing and self sustaining. Why would our owners having gone to all this trouble now want to open a door for other investors to buy other clubs and do the the same as us thereby creating unwanted competition for revenue and trophies when UEFA have gone to all this trouble to close it for them. Is it fair? No it's not. Is it right for our owners investment with City? You bet.

If this is the case, then it's an extremely selfish attitude. I prefer to believe that we've simply weighed up the cost/benefit of challenging this in the courts and have decided against it.

 

[Marvin]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Why don't you just let his performances and the man speak for himself?

Every Summer we get this from his so-called agent. Yaya is just trying to be nice to everyone. Ignore it