bobbyowenquiff
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It depends who you mean by the PL. Perhaps Masters is deluded enough to think he has won but I doubt if many Club Directors ( including his pals) will agree.
City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)
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Man City accuse Premier League of 'misleading' clubs over tribunal verdict
Manchester City accuse the Premier League of being "misleading" over the verdict in its landmark legal case on rules over commercial deals.www.bbc.co.uk
From City’s letter…
The Premier League's position that City were unsuccessful in the majority of its challenge is described by Cliff as "a peculiar way of looking at the decision".
He added: "While it is true that MCFC did not succeed with every point that it ran in its legal challenge, the club did not need to prove that the APT rules are unlawful for lots of different reasons. It is enough that they are unlawful for one reason."
Cliff added that it was “not correct that the tribunal’s decision identifies 'certain discrete elements' of the APT rules that need to be amended in order to comply with competition and public law requirements.
"On the contrary: the APT Rules... have been found to be unlawful, as a matter of competition law and public law.
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I'm making some assumptions here, but from what I gather the delay in releasing the results was down to the PL side?
I think that this will have been due to them desperately trying to create a statement that made them look good (well, less bad!). I expect they were trying to word things pretty carefully.
I feel like if the PL genuinely felt they'd won, they'd have managed to get their statement out a lot quicker then they did. It would have been a much more straightforward job.
That's all just feels though, you're the guy who knows legal.
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They are misleading everyone, everybody can see it as plain as day. If someone as biased as Simon Jordan is saying they have lost this case they have lost.@slbsn
Man City accuse Premier League of 'misleading' clubs over tribunal verdict
Manchester City accuse the Premier League of being "misleading" over the verdict in its landmark legal case on rules over commercial deals.www.bbc.co.uk
mac
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Fuck the tarquins. I hope rvery single prick is devastated. Cunts the fucking lot of them.
Stefan becoming full pundit, no fans seem to like there own.
For me we won on what we won, but it was never a huge case and nor did we want it to be.
Stefan is bang on the money, as he tends to be when he says stuff we like.
Do City want FMV gone is an interesting conversation, as we might but might not?
Do we want it to be more flexible and far less red tape (definitely), do we want it easy/ quick go do deals (yes). These are our wins.
City fans in this thread like detail, take that as 5% of TS audience and the rest believing we wanting to challenge these so that Etihad could sponsor us for a billion pounds a year. That would not be good for us long term (IMO). Do we want to be able to be sponsored for an amount reflective as our position as 1 of if not the best team in the world, 4 in a row, treble winners. Without PL and the red cartel moaning no history, empty seats etc. To now have PL having to show us why that is not acceptable as opposed to us justifying it makes a significant difference.
Plus, we have changed the landscape of let’s do this, that to can we do this, our voice will now be heard a lot more.
So I agree not much has changed and certainly to the outside world, but inside the circle I think City will be very happy.
For me we won on what we won, but it was never a huge case and nor did we want it to be.
Stefan is bang on the money, as he tends to be when he says stuff we like.
Do City want FMV gone is an interesting conversation, as we might but might not?
Do we want it to be more flexible and far less red tape (definitely), do we want it easy/ quick go do deals (yes). These are our wins.
City fans in this thread like detail, take that as 5% of TS audience and the rest believing we wanting to challenge these so that Etihad could sponsor us for a billion pounds a year. That would not be good for us long term (IMO). Do we want to be able to be sponsored for an amount reflective as our position as 1 of if not the best team in the world, 4 in a row, treble winners. Without PL and the red cartel moaning no history, empty seats etc. To now have PL having to show us why that is not acceptable as opposed to us justifying it makes a significant difference.
Plus, we have changed the landscape of let’s do this, that to can we do this, our voice will now be heard a lot more.
So I agree not much has changed and certainly to the outside world, but inside the circle I think City will be very happy.
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Thread is moving fast, but for context my post was offering an explanation as to why Stefan has taken the position he has and not reflective of my own opinion. The intention of the club is pure guesswork really. The timing gives a strong indication that we saw the revised rules as a step too far and were commercially impacted so took legal action. The fact we won, and our proposed sponsorship deals will have to be re-assessed is a win. And that, for me, was our main aim. But the case itself looked at the full rulebook and on the face of it the club tried to challenge a lot more than those rules, and were unsuccessful.
As you say, we want fair rules that enable clubs to grow commercially, within UK competition law. We've got that. So it's a win. The PL have to re-write their rules around those elements, and get the majority of PL clubs to agree and vote for them. Whilst the principle of the APT rules survive, those that stifled us will have to change. I can't see how you'd review that as anything but a City win. But I can appreciate Stefan's position that it's a bit more nuanced than win and lose.