City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

[Churchlawtonblue]

So, seeing as the consensus changes by the minute, did we fucking win or not ?????

Without a straw poll it would seem that few posters don't think we won, IE Stefan and Damocles to name but two. But it looks like the majority on here think we did win something at least. What exactly is still to be determined.

If we didn't win something, I guess the PL must be rewriting their Assoicated Party Rules and calling an emergency meeting for fun?

 

[mattcity5]

That they’re owned by PIF.

Loads of people think we're state-owned. Theyre wrong, but I can understand their confusion, it is a bit of a fine line. But why are we so bothered about a club being state owned?

Is it because potentially they'll be richer than everyone else? If so, so what. Somebody always has to be the richest, and if we're wanting to limit ownership based on that, it's a really slippy slope to being as bad as the red shirts.

What would be the worst that would happen? Newcastle sign great players and the league is even more competitive?

Any piece of regulation regarding funding is one piece of regulation too many to me.

 

[KS55]

What are the pl voting on ?

To ignore the ruling and voting to keep the illegal rules and to ignore making loans payback with interest ?

Or new rules ?

I think they’ve decided not to have a vote just yet.

 

[citizen_maine]

Khaldoon is a slightly different proposition. He is a member of the law making body of AbuDhabi (The Executive Council) and a director of some of the main companies. I suppose in the end we have to accept that many of our AD transactions will be Associated, provide the rules are fair, legal and administered without bias. Remember this category was introduced specifically to trap us and is a lot wider than Related Transactions under IAS 24 which UEFA use and to which we are subjected.

Then APT cannot be fair or administered without bias as it doesn't treat all clubs transactions the same

 

[Stockton Heath Blue]

But can we get 7 votes? 1 City 2 Newcastle 3 Chelsea 4 Everton 5 Forest. Can't think of any others tbh.

Palace - Didn't their owner recently state that he was a billionaire, but PSR didn't allow him to invest any of his fortune?

 

[spacecadet]

Palace - Didn't their owner recently state that he was a billionaire, but PSR didn't allow him to invest any of his fortune?

Hopefully, but I wouldn't bet on them Blue.

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

Without a straw poll it would seem that few posters don't think we won, IE Stefan and Damocles to name but two. But it looks like the majority on here think we did win something at least. What exactly is still to be determined.

If we didn't win something, I guess the PL must be rewriting their Assoicated Party Rules and calling an emergency meeting for fun?

It's hard because there were no rules of engagement to define a 'winner', so the more negative amongst us are defaulting to their more doom and gloomy instincts.

Might be easier to frame it as there was only one loser here, and as you say, it's the one that's being forced to take action as a result of the decision.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Without a straw poll it would seem that few posters don't think we won, IE Stefan and Damocles to name but two. But it looks like the majority on here think we did win something at least. What exactly is still to be determined.

If we didn't win something, I guess the PL must be rewriting their Assoicated Party Rules and calling an emergency meeting for fun?

Stefan and Damocles are wrong.

We proved their rules are unlawful. Which is what we set out to do.

 

[meltonblue]

Loads of people think we're state-owned. Theyre wrong, but I can understand their confusion, it is a bit of a fine line. But why are we so bothered about a club being state owned?

Is it because potentially they'll be richer than everyone else? If so, so what. Somebody always has to be the richest, and if we're wanting to limit ownership based on that, it's a really slippy slope to being as bad as the red shirts.

What would be the worst that would happen? Newcastle sign great players and the league is even more competitive?

Any piece of regulation regarding funding is one piece of regulation too many to me.

For the same reason we’re constantly saying we’re not. It brings a completely different motivation into the scenario.

I don’t disagree with your financial points though.

 

[Ste68]

Do they have a choice, by law they now have to be included going forward surely?

They would have to be included as they are by very definition and unquestionably an APT.

I would think the bigger obstacle to a rushed set of rules would be convincing 14 clubs to vote in favour of a newly drafted set.

In effect the current rules cannot continue to be used but how does the PL persuade enough clubs it can get this right giving the total abject failure to do so in the past.

Assuming they do go to bat with a redraft (and it looks like they intend to do that) then they will have to accept the burden of proof that a deal is above FMV lies squarely with the PL , they will have to share the rationale , they will have to turn a decision round quickly and with the evidence to back it up but doubt how robust a set of rules can be that objectively decide a commercial deal is an APT if its not legally controlled by the owner or senior member of staff of the club doing the deal and once you decide it is how do you as the PL now prove its above FMV whilst avoiding legal challenge.

Would expect it would take some time for the PL to assure enough clubs the rules were watertight and capable of avoiding legal challenges for being unlawful and discriminatory and will not come back around to bite them on the backside. Might mean the clubs who got this through by sitting on the fence will now vote against it. Expect there are lots of back route conversations going on between clubs themselves and the PL no doubt doing the rounds and more clarification to come from the Tribunal.

Tebas meanwhile laughing his nuts off.