gouldybob
Well-Known Member
Apologies if already posted. Fair review. You prove unlawful once it’s unlawful.
A similar one from the Times with Martin Samuel
Apologies if already posted. Fair review. You prove unlawful once it’s unlawful.
I think you're dead right.I don't believe it was either.
I do however think we voted for shareholder loans to be excluded to help lure the inept PL legal team into a bear trap that they jumped into with both feet.
I agree, I'd just like to see how bad it would be for them. Look out now to see which directors convert the money to equityYou don’t to be an account given arsenal couldn’t afford raya & meet psr, with a retrospective 60m on post values they are fucked
I can imagine you playing in a tricky Ricky kind of style.No. I liked his languid, insouciant style very much.
I was more two footed, but yes, that’s not wide of the mark. I had a decent first touch, but I was disgracefully lazy. Decent at fives, but no good at 11 a side really.I can imagine you playing in a tricky Ricky kind of style.
Ricky Holden was the only thing in the universe that turned slower than lead.Good old Ricky as my old dad said about him. His pace was deceptive. He was slower than he looked
The fact that the PL want to take existing Shareholder Loans out of updated APT but still include existing sponsorships from 2021-24 in updated APT tells me they are absolutely fucking clueless and are desperate to add "DISCRIMINATORY" to the existing "ILLEGAL, UNFAIR and UNREASONABLE" words in the recent judgement.I think you're dead right.
The whole PSR case against City hangs entirely on Allegation 1 - that City inflated sponsorship deals with Associated Parties (ie Etisalat & Etihad) to being above FMV.
If
- excluding Preferential Interest Loans from the new APT transactions is unlawful,
then it stands to reason that
- excluding Preferential Interest Loans from the PSR rules is unlawful too,
However, despite this point being a fait acomplis, it hasn't been proven yet in any legal sense.
The point Simon Cliff was making in his letter to the Premier League and the other 19 clubs is that the judgement means the APT rules themselves are unlawful. End of. Any decisions or actions taken under them are therefore null and void. The Premier League has not realised or accepted this yet.
Again, it stands to reason, but hasn't been confirmed in court, that:
- The PSR rules are therefore unlawful too, and any decisions or actions taken under them are null and void too.
The arbitration panel assessing City's PSR case will have this point put to them by Lord Pannick et al.
So I think it is a hugely significant judgement.
Yet at the same time, it will probably have to be proven separately in court or at a tribunal. Who knows it could go the other way?
I think you're dead right.
The whole PSR case against City hangs entirely on Allegation 1 - that City inflated sponsorship deals with Associated Parties (ie Etisalat & Etihad) to being above FMV.
If
- excluding Preferential Interest Loans from the new APT transactions is unlawful,
then it stands to reason that
- excluding Preferential Interest Loans from the PSR rules is unlawful too,
However, despite this point being a fait acomplis, it hasn't been proven yet in any legal sense.
The point Simon Cliff was making in his letter to the Premier League and the other 19 clubs is that the judgement means the APT rules themselves are unlawful. End of. Any decisions or actions taken under them are therefore null and void. The Premier League has not realised or accepted this yet.
Again, it stands to reason, but hasn't been confirmed in court, that:
- The PSR rules are therefore unlawful too, and any decisions or actions taken under them are null and void too.
The arbitration panel assessing City's PSR case will have this point put to them by Lord Pannick et al.
So I think it is a hugely significant judgement.
Yet at the same time, it will probably have to be proven separately in court or at a tribunal. Who knows it could go the other way?
Yup! And then Sheikh Mansour bought Manchester City Football Club, & UEFA's long drawn out proposals for reducing debt in football, were suddenly ditched & the focus switched to stifling owner investment, & then renamed Financial FAIR PLAY.I may be incorrect here, but didn’t Platini suggest clubs in debt were cheating, so FFP was initially about reducing debt & nothing at all to do with owner investment as you suggest?