City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

[halfcenturyup]

Bit aren't some of 115 charges. Sure I read City have been charged for allegedly breaking rules that did exist at the time

I doubt the allegations relate to rules that didn't exist at the time. The PL may be hopeless, but I doubt their lawyers are stupid.

If it looks like that, it is probably because we don't fully understand what the allegations actually are in detail. Who does?

 

[GSW Blue]

Might be a dumb question, but say when Forest knew they were going to fail PSR, why didnt their owner just give themselves an owner interest free loan to make up the difference?

Only the interest (or lack of interest) is taken into account for PSR.

 

[blueju]

To me it reeks more of stupidity. Either they don’t understand the tribunal’s words or think they can get away with ignoring them.

They refuse to accept the facts because it’s us, that’s all there is to it.

 

[KS55]

Bit aren't some of 115 charges. Sure I read City have been charged for allegedly breaking rules that did exist at the time

Yes, we may be found to have broken some rules, but minor ones only which did not confer a sporting advantage, eg Mancini contract. If we are cleared on the sponsorships, we will be ok.

 

[citizen_maine]

Might be a dumb question, but say when Forest knew they were going to fail PSR, why didnt their owner just give themselves an owner interest free loan to make up the difference?

Like most of us at the time, they probably didn't expect it to incur a points deduction

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

which Newcastle ones? Have you a link please?

They are in the main ATP judgement documents. It was part of the evidence. There is a link somewhere from the PL website with their initial press release.

Here it is: All 175 pages. Obviously the English press have ignored it!

https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2024/10/07/898efab9-9f51-449b-a393-1a0c05b48824/Manchester-City-and-Premier-League-Partial-Final-Award-071024.pdf

 

[sir baconface]

In fact, quite the opposite - there are whole swathes of rival football supporters and media types who previously couldn't even have pointed to the UAE on the map who are suddenly experts and extremely concerned about human rights in the region.

Far better a country that elects fcukwits and psychopaths to lead them, that beats the shit out of black crime suspects, that sponsors genocide and shoots schoolkids as a national pastime. Speaking hypothetically of course.

 

[SWP's back]

Those loans were not against the rules then.

Unlawfully they weren’t against the rules*

 

[jockblue]

Bit like saying if you were born in America during slavery you knew what you were signing up for and had no right to question whether it was right to keep people as slaves

Say you grew up as a woman in Afghanistan. It was always possible that the Taliban would come in and ban women from doing anything like working or going to school, so they really can't complain about it...

 

[halfcenturyup]

The PL are investigating Mancini's perfectly legal contract from 2008....four years before FFP was introduced. It was independently signed off by audits of our accounts multiple times, agreed with the UK tax office, and UEFA were happy with it. Going back into our perfectly legal accounts from 15 years ago looks pretty retrospective (and vindictive) to me.

It may be vindictive, but it doesn't have to be retrospective, depending on what the allegations actually are. We can guess, but we don't know, of course. We only know what rules are alleged to have been breached, not how.