City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

[Tb1981]

Seems to be a big issue with 'the tyranny of the majority'

'The tyranny of the majority is an inherent weakness to majority rule in which the majority of an electorate pursues exclusively its own objectives at the expense of those of the minority factions'.

Hmmmmm that's bang on the money
i dont see an issue

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Been busy this week and have no time to plough through 120-odd pages on this. I may therefore be duplicating stuff that's been said before, in whioch case I'm sorry. Anyway, here goes.

1. The bottom line is that this is going to be a highly technical case that depends on very complex intricacies of UK competition law. Such cases are usually very difficult for a claimant to prove.

2. However, I'm surprised and not a little disappointed to see various prominent City accounts on X wading in a criticising the club based on the reporting of this issue so far.

3. For a start, nearly all of what we know about the matter is based on a story that a newspaper has sourced based on an extensive leak from our opponent or from a rival member club within it. That constitutes a bad-faith source which is deliberately giving a skewed, incomplete and likely misleading view of events, so I'd wager that City's position would look more ostensibly reasonable if we had an impartial account produced in good faith of the respective positions of the parties.

4. Further, I think that the senior executives of the club deserve our trust at this point. That could change as events progress, though I hope and believe it won't. However, I don't see grounds at this stage for any committed Blue to mistrust them.

5. For City to have brought this action, those running the club must believe the following two things among others: (a) that City have suffered a genuine loss as a result of the PL applying the provisions we're challenging; and (b) that such application has been discriminatory.

6. IF the two circumstances listed in point 5 were true (and please note that this is a conditional sentence, while also referring back to point 4), it'd be perfectly reasonable for the club to seek to safeguard its position in this way. Indeed, there's a strong argument that the directors would be remiss if they failed to do so.

I don't see that it's currently possible to say any more than the above with any authority. But, as with the thread on the so-called '115 charges', where literally almost nothing of note has happened in public since February 2023, BM is nonetheless likely to amass thousands of pages of comment.

Well said, pal.

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

What's the ramification for the club if we don't win this APT case, as Stefan is suggesting we won't?
Firstly there'll be major outcry from everyone in football as usual, and then we get on with it abiding by the new rule implemented in February and the 115 charges case continues in the Autumn as planned, and independent from this case.

have I got that right?

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

You might ask yourself who's running the PL ? If they can veto top appointments...

Exactly! How the fuck have we got to a point where two clubs who have done so much damage to the game, one is a billion in debt and has a stadium falling down, the other has the eternal shame of Heysel and also just been revealed what we all know in accepting blood money for decades, get to run the fucking show !

 

[mancboy]

We all know the pic but pretty difficult to prove collusion against us in a court/tribunal from that. Stretching it to even call it circumstantial evidence

absolutely circumstantial but it helps to build a narrative.

 

[Keeper!]

Does anyone else think this fucking sucks.

I just want to watch a bunch of guys kick a ball about, comment or read on their tactics and ability. Maybe see what new players come in, what the new kit looks like here and there, or what the stadium might become.

Instead, I need to read all this pish, about processes and tribunal X and so on and so on. Ffs football.

It's not good for football and more importantly us for sure.

I would like to see either Khaldoon or Ferran issue a statement to give the clubs reason for this latest situation.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Seems to be a big issue with 'the tyranny of the majority'

'The tyranny of the majority is an inherent weakness to majority rule in which the majority of an electorate pursues exclusively its own objectives at the expense of those of the minority factions'.

Hmmmmm that's bang on the money
i dont see an issue

Minority protection from abuse by a majority is a feature in English Civil Law, especially relating to Companies and Shareholders.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

EeqStefan doesn't sound very hopeful about our success on Talks****

No, he doesn’t does he?

Intriguing to say the least how this all pans out. One thing I am smiling about is the amount of uneducated bollocks people are coming out with on the socials.

Clueless cunts.

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

Fans are entitled to criticize the club, or at least ask questions of them or doubt them. In my opinion.
We've been defending them to the hilt for the last 8-10 years now in the face of accusation after accusation.
That's not me saying that I haven't been doing my best in defending my club the past 24 hours!
In lay mans terms, its quite hard to put a good argument favouring City in terms of yesterday's news.

We are allowed to stop and ask, why have we done this, it doesn't look good etc.

 

[laserblue]

I still think United are far more likely to have sided with the PL on this, personally.

I'm not so sure Ric. Three different Ineos group companies are among Nice's biggest sponsors and surely Scruffy Jim will be wanting some significant Ineos sponsorship for the rags.