City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

[Prestwich_Blue]

thanks for that.

A few posters seemed to be unsure what “set aside” actually means so it’s just a word to explain that.

I don’t think you can say there are no APT rules. The rules exist because they were voted on by the requisite majority of PL clubs. The rules are unenforceable because they are unlawful, but that is not to say they don’t exist. A fine distinction perhaps but quite an important one.

So if they're unenforceable, can we now sign the Etihad and First Abu Dhabi Bank deals without having to refer them to the PL and get a decisions on whether they're fair market value?

 

[Cobwebcat]

So if they're unenforceable, can we now sign the Etihad and First Abu Dhabi Bank deals without having to refer them to the PL and get a decisions on whether they're fair market value?

I wondered that but I’m guessing the answer is no.

 

[ufo]

Martin Samuel has it right where he says “Profit and Sustainability” should just be “Sustainability” because the profit, of individual clubs, is nothing to do with them. As long as the club isn’t going bust it could be that the owner wanted the club to be a non profit organisation and, as such, would be free to keep ticket prices down.

I just laugh every time I see this sustainable shit, it’s just one of many band aid fix to save red cartels from prolapse rectum.

 

[ufo]

This fella? No...

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Fucking interest free ****

 

[Vic]

The APT rules will not be tweaked, they will simply cease to exist as any proposed tweak will mean the introduction of interest on shareholder loans counting towards PSR.

From what I can recall there are around 10 or so clubs that have shareholder loans and a vote requires 14 of the 20 clubs to agree to a rule change or proposal.

I can’t see clubs in receipt of shareholder loans voting for an introduction of interest payments so I think APT is dead in the water.

The APT rules already don't exist. (But see subsequent post ...)

 

[Cobwebcat]

I just laugh every time I see this sustainable shit, it’s just one of many band aid fix to save red cartels from prolapse rectum.

It’s just another way of saying don’t go bust but the thing is Footy clubs nearly always come back even if they do go bust because it’s fan base is loyal and stick with them. So I’m not sure, ultimately what the “problem” is.

 

[dadnlad]

So if they're unenforceable, can we now sign the Etihad and First Abu Dhabi Bank deals without having to refer them to the PL and get a decisions on whether they're fair market value?

but when rules all sorted these will be only transactions retrospectively reviewed

 

[Vic]

Superb. It struck me immediately after the verdict that the PL claiming a win over something City did not try to do, ie junk controls completely, was fatuous. City support controls provided they are fair and legal. You are right that the media are hopeless in not vaguely understanding the issue. Many of the journos have neither the brains nor the knowledge nor the diligence to get on top of it. What chance has the average fan? Thanks for a great post.

I'm not sure I entirely blame journos when supposedly expert lawyers haven't got on top of it.

 

[eastmanc]

This fella? No...

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Not him, the actual Dick Dastardly. That Dick is a twat.

 

[Cobwebcat]

The APT rules already don't exist.

They do they’re just unenforceable as detailed by Chris on the last page. My opinion too.