City Matters thread

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

It doesn't mean that there were 16k empty seats, just that this number either didn't use their ticket at all, transferred it or put it on the exchange.

Exactly - otherwise the attendance would have been given as 38K (and that's assuming Burnley sold 3,000 tickets

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Exactly - otherwise the attendance would have been given as 38K (and that's assuming Burnley sold 3,000 tickets

No it wouldn't, as they count season tickets as part of the attendance regardless of whether they've been used.

 

[Eccles Blue]

That's good to know.

I've heard the question asked many times on BM, without a definitive answer being given.

Well if there are ‘about 36-37k’ it’s not exactly a definitive answer is it? Is it 36,000, 36,500 or 37,000 or maybe 36,750? ;-) :-)

 

[GortonBlue62]

Well if there are ‘about 36-37k’ it’s not exactly a definitive answer is it? Is it 36,000, 36,500 or 37,000 or maybe 36,750? ;-) :-)

I've settled on 36,500.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I've settled on 36,500.

Phew. That was my thought as well. Then after I’d posted I thought ohhh he might think I’m being rude. I’m glad you understood my daft/weird/peculiar sense of humour. ;-) :-)

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Well if there are ‘about 36-37k’ it’s not exactly a definitive answer is it? Is it 36,000, 36,500 or 37,000 or maybe 36,750? ;-) :-)

I was told there were 37k when I was on CM. I'm assuming that some of those won't have renewed over the last few years, but that some of those lapsed tickets will have been repurposed as Flexible Golds or the Silver season tickets.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I was told there were 37k when I was on CM. I'm assuming that some of those won't have renewed over the last few years, but that some of those lapsed tickets will have been repurposed as Flexible Golds or the Silver season tickets.

I was just having my usual daft 5 minutes PB. :-) ;-)

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I was just having my usual daft 5 minutes PB. :-) ;-)

5 minutes EB??? ;-)

 

[Eccles Blue]

5 minutes EB??? ;-)

5 in every quarter hour!! :-)

 

[Stephen230]

It's not really a secret. There are about 36-37k season ticket holders.

I’m not say it’s impossible to make a pretty accurate guess.

But as far as I know it’s information that the club never make public knowledge.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

No it wouldn't, as they count season tickets as part of the attendance regardless of whether they've been used.

Yes I realised that after posting. What I meant is there would have been 38K in the stadium - which clearly.wasnt the case

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I see some old red herrings resurfacing alleging City force season cards off fans who miss plenty of games. In reality, a season card holder gets a call from the Club if say the season card wasn’t used for half of the games and if the Blue says they’ve been ill or had family caring responsibilities etc. no action is taken.

There was clearly a common sense / fan attendance case for introducing the the flexi gold season cards. They reflect the pattern of many fans attendance / non attendance for games. It’s not a big deal if people transfer on their ticket or place it on the ticket exchange.

The group City seem to take a bit for granted are the season card holders who, rain or shine, attend every home game. That said, getting to watch the world’s best football team is reward enough. I don’t want there to be a seat on City Matrers for this group btw.

The Burnley game may or may not have been an outlier. Several thousand tickets are resold for most home games on both the Ticket Exchange and the Facebook Pages. The Friends & Family ticket transfer function helps thousands of Blues.
Outside games against the rags, dippers and Arse I think a third of season card holders not going to games seems reasonable to me.

 

[Mhh1960]

The Club are obsessed with data like this, as it tells them who has attended, used ticket transfer, ticket exchange or not used their ticket at all. According to the Club, 16,000 season ticket holders didn't attend the Burnley match at home last season. As a result, they can work out whether they need to promote the transfer and exchange platforms, or in the case of no shows, implement rules such as the need to attend (or list/exchange) 14 matches to retain a season card bar mitigating circumstances.

Thanks for that Alex.

 

[East Level 2]

Pretty sure the attendance would include all season ticket holders, whether they came, put it on the exchange or didn’t bother with either.

Published attendances have been based on tickets sold for the past couple of decades. The club and police know the actual figure but have no reason to release it.
I don't recall too many empty seats during any PL game in the past couple of seasons which suggests the ticket exchange (or third party sellers) are shifting them whatever the price.

 

[TheGhost]

I see some old red herrings resurfacing alleging City force season cards off fans who miss plenty of games. In reality, a season card holder gets a call from the Club if say the season card wasn’t used for half of the games and if the Blue says they’ve been ill or had family caring responsibilities etc. no action is taken.

There was clearly a common sense / fan attendance case for introducing the the flexi gold season cards. They reflect the pattern of many fans attendance / non attendance for games. It’s not a big deal if people transfer on their ticket or place it on the ticket exchange.

The group City seem to take a bit for granted are the season card holders who, rain or shine, attend every home game. That said, getting to watch the world’s best football team is reward enough. I don’t want there to be a seat on City Matrers for this group btw.

The Burnley game may or may not have been an outlier. Several thousand tickets are resold for most home games on both the Ticket Exchange and the Facebook Pages. The Friends & Family ticket transfer function helps thousands of Blues.
Outside games against the rags, dippers and Arse I think a third of season card holders not going to games seems reasonable to me.

That Burnley game I probably missed the first 15 minutes of it. There was biblical rain all afternoon and evening, was the game on TV (?), the M60 was shut in large parts, the Metrolink was having big issues too, mid January when everyone is skint, and the ticket prices were daft. All factors in a hugely reduced crowd.

 

[gouldybob]

I have to admit I don't understand why people don't pass the card on if they can't make it. OK if your stuck in traffic on the way but it you know you can't make it just pass it on to others in a friends and family group, can even get what you'd get from City if you want. I'm in a group of about 40 and when one of us can't make it we pass it on for £30. A couple of mates from Ipswich (City membership holders) wanted to come up for the match, we're away so I'll just transfer the seats to him. He's happy, I get some beer money and the seats full with him, his lad and half the club shop. Done it through the local supporters club before now if nobody can use them. No need to not pass them on, even Burnley..

 

[Tim of the Oak]

That Burnley game I probably missed the first 15 minutes of it. There was biblical rain all afternoon and evening, was the game on TV (?), the M60 was shut in large parts, the Metrolink was having big issues too, mid January when everyone is skint, and the ticket prices were daft. All factors in a hugely reduced crowd.

Thanks TheGhost. I remember the night and got soaked. I was just emphasising the amount of tickets from season card holders that are transferred / resold. I thought the crowd was OK.

The Club learnt a lesson and we got a better crowd and cheaper tickets for the next lower profile, midweek home game.

 

[Stephen230]

I have to admit I don't understand why people don't pass the card on if they can't make it. OK if your stuck in traffic on the way but it you know you can't make it just pass it on to others in a friends and family group, can even get what you'd get from City if you want. I'm in a group of about 40 and when one of us can't make it we pass it on for £30. A couple of mates from Ipswich (City membership holders) wanted to come up for the match, we're away so I'll just transfer the seats to him. He's happy, I get some beer money and the seats full with him, his lad and half the club shop. Done it through the local supporters club before now if nobody can use them. No need to not pass them on, even Burnley..

Because generally speaking, occasional fans aren’t particularly interested in the occasion being Burnley on a midweek in January.

People I know are aware I manage the tickets for a number of fans and often have spares. I can guarantee when the big games come round, the texts start rolling in.

Yet, I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve sent out a multi message saying…Free ticket for tonight’s game, and had no replies.

We might have a million new members all after Real Madrid at home tickets. But giving away tickets to other games can be the biggest challenge.

 

[117 M34]

Not sure where best to post this but city matters team may be the best to get the message across.

With the news from the rags today saying they are looking at building a new ground, can the club be told that no matter how much they offer and how much the powers that be are trying to have a positive relationship with them, we absolutely do not want them sharing our ground. Not even for 1 game.

 

[jrb]

Not sure where best to post this but city matters team may be the best to get the message across.

With the news from the rags today saying they are looking at building a new ground, can the club be told that no matter how much they offer and how much the powers that be are trying to have a positive relationship with them, we absolutely do not want them sharing our ground. Not even for 1 game.

Don’t worry.

Guardian.(Rag PR Boradsheet)

Sir Jim Ratcliffe wants Manchester United to decide on their stadium plans by December and favours a new facility with a capacity of 100,000 that would cost more than £2bn and take about six years to complete. That would be constructed next to Old Trafford, allowing the use of the existing venue until the new one is ready.