talkativesprout
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Section 2 question 5 is a doozy, only person to manage both manchester teams if his Wiki doesn't lie
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City Myths
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superwatsonwatson
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Birmingham not winning is hardly a series of bizzare results, and as I said, because City beat utd, the tiniest mathematical chance regarding any other result was completely irrelevant.Before ko it would have taken a series of bizzare results for the rags to stay up. The tiniest mathematical chance.
LongsightM13
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Magnall?Section 2 question 5 is a doozy, only person to manage both manchester teams if his Wiki doesn't lie
blue by birth
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Possibly..hard to recall all the crap games we had to put up with though...For some reason Jamie Hoyland rings a vague bell, without looking it up, did he score his only City goal in the second leg?
LongsightM13
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I can remember when we were all excited about Hoyland. Early let down among manyPossibly..hard to recall all the crap games we had to put up with though...
blue by birth
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Every young player in them days was going to be the next best thing...it was what kept us hopeful...mind you it got worse...Alan Ball and Buster Phillips who was going to be the 1st £10m player..I can remember when we were all excited about Hoyland. Early let down among many
Mind you going to the games when younger and with loads of mates was great fun .. regardless of the shite football eh
Mad Eyed Screamer
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Paul Moulden was shagging Mel Machin's daughter which is why he wouldn't play him / sold him
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MCFC Wirral
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The majority of rags are Mancs? No chance. Their fanbase are worldwide.
Lord Blue
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a few more i think - happy to be put rightsadly not quite true
our first major trophy was 1904 (FA Cup)
Liverpool 1901 (league)
Spurs 1901 (FA Cup)
Man Ure 1908 (league)
Arsenal 1930 (FA Cup)
Chelsea 1955 (league)
the facts liverpool fans hate the most are
1)we won the the fa cup 61 years before they won it
2)we won a european trophy three years before they did
3)we won the league cup eleven years before they did.
facts united fans hate the most are
1)we won a trophy first
2)we won the league cup 22 years before they did
3)they have only been the most successful team in the league (most league titles) for 19 out of the total of 144 years and only reached that position for the first time in 1967
4)they have never been top of the all time league table and only cracked the top 10 in the mid 1970's and only rose above us in the mid 1980's
5)they only have 3 managers in their history who have won the league (most of their fans can only name 2). For reference liverpool have 9,arsenal have 7, we have 5, chelsea have 4 and spurs 2.
6)Jose mourinho, who most united fans call a failure, is their 4th most successful manager.
- In 1970 Liverpool were no more successful than City or Spurs(8 major honours each) and those clubs both had a European major honour but Liverpool did not.
- City were the first of the current Big 6 to have won all 3 major domestic trophies and a major European trophy.
- 1970 City
- 1971 Chelsea, Spurs
- 1981 Liverpool
- 1987 Arsenal
- 1992 United
- Imagine back in 1888 when the Football League was being founded at the Royal Hotel in Manchester, if they’d said; “and we must implement a Financial Fair Play law”...
There would likely not have been 5 league titles in 7 years for Aston Villa, 3 FA Cup wins in a row for Blackburn Rovers, 3 league titles in 4 years for Sunderland...
When Newton Heath were about to go bust, there would likely never have been a Manchester United come out of that...
Arsenal would likely never have moved into North London, been fraudulently promoted despite finishing 5th in the Second Division, and there would likely never have been 5 league titles in the 1930s for them...
If there did happen to be a Manchester United after Newton Heath, they would have gone bust in the 1930s when they were getting crowds of 4,000 and had no money. Subsequently no club who had those historic spells in the 1950s, 60s, 90s and 00s...
Liverpool would likely have remained a Second Division club in the late 1950s and there would have been no historic spells of the 60s 70s and 80s for them...
- Citys 10th highest league crowd is 71,364, Liverpools best ever crowd is 61,905. ( City even had 69,463 when in division two against burnley )
- Up until 1976 City had won 9 major trophies and United 11 .Even when Ferguson became manager it was 9 v 14 , hardly a gulf in history.
- Liverpool weren't even the biggest/most successful club in their own city at the start of the 60s, never mind biggest club in England. That was Liverpool before they were "financially doped" with dirty gambling money.
- Liverpool are a completely manufactured club. Their founder, John Houlding, kicked Everton out of Anfield and therefore had a ground but no team. So he bought a load of players, mainly Scottish ones. He wanted to call them Everton as well but wasn't allowed so he called them Liverpool instead
- Liverpools beer brewer owner, John Houlding upped the rent of the ground to Everton. Everton had to leave. Houlding had beer to sell and a ground to fill… starts a new club, pays mercenary Scot’s to come south and create team, decides to call team Liverpool. Beer washing, and clearly current day Liverpool fans have forgotten their origins (or the repeat of the 50’s/60’s)
- Liverpool were given a free stadium.
- Houlding loaned shed loads of money to LFC and when he died it was due to be repaid to the family. However, the family realised that the club wasn't in a position to pay back the loans and any attempt to force them to do so would result in the bankruptcy of the club and the total loss of the money owed anyway. So they gave the LFC a free pass by writing off the debt.
- After several decades of not winning much and being relegated, the Moores family pumped sugar daddy money into the club to buy them promotion, a new team and trophies.
- Liverpool failed UEFA FFP in 2013 but failed to qualify for Europe so fell outside UEFA's remit for investigation and punishment.
- City are the last Club to ever win the First Division Championship/PL without an overseas player. Mulhearn, Book, Pardoe, Doyle, Heslop, Oakes, Summerbee, Bell, Lee, Young, Coleman. Every one an Englishman ... well unless you dismiss Tony Coleman who was a Scouser
in 1937, in the Olympic Stadium in Berlin, English champions Manchester City refused to do the Nazi salute prior to the preliminaries of the game against a German Select XI. A year later in 1938 the FA ordered the English team to comply with the salute before playing Germany. Standing up to Fascist racists
Coventry play in sky blue because One of the directors was impressed with City’s fighting spirit in the 1955 FA Cup Final despite being a man down for most of the game. There can't be too many English clubs who have inspired another English club to change their colours.
Franny 1234
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We bought it all from the same three clubs. Who obviously haven't looked into their own history. CTIDWe are glory hunters - and always from Man United, Arsenal or Liverpool fans...