Damocles said:Blue Haze said:Do you really think Mancini is privy to the ownership details of the club? And do you think that if he became aware of some secret that wasn't public, he'd make such a gaffe at a stadium?
No, of course he wouldn't.
There is no reason to believe that a simple slip of the tongue would indicate a secret ownership arrangement.
So why are you implying this with no evidence?
Evidence? Thin on the ground in either circumstance:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/mansour-to-replace-man-city-directors" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news ... -directors</a>
The team led by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed in the takeover of Manchester City is preparing to introduce new directors to the board of the English Premier League club as it moves towards finalising a deal worth more than Dh1.3 billion
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/01/manchestercity.premierleague1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008 ... ierleague1</a>
"This is all the Abu Dhabi royal family," explained Anil Bhoyrul, the former Mirror journalist who broke the story for his Dubai-based magazine Arabian Business. "This [Adug] is essentially an investment vehicle set up for Man City and funded by sheikhs in the royal family. It's not exactly clear which sheikhs it is yet but this is the Abu Dhabi royal family."
Club ownership
Manchester City Football Club is owned 100% by His Highness Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan.
Damocles said:inbetween said:Sheikh Mohammed owns no part of City nor is he related in any form to ADUG or Aabar, no idea why he was referenced though.
Generally when you talk about someone in a Royal Family you address all of them through respect so i can understand why Mancini mentioned them but i don't really know what Sheikh Mohammed has to do with anything, he is part of the Dubai brigade.
No he isn't. Sheikh Mohammed is the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and the next President. You're talking about Sheikh Mohammed Al Maktoum, instead of Sheikh Mohammed Al Nayhan.
Project said:Mancini never thanked them as "owners". He just thanked them. Khaldoon included who doesn't own the club.
As an earlier poster says Mansours wealth is by defacto sovereign oil money, so I am not sure the distinction between personal and State ownership holds any merit.
He thanked the owner in Mansour, the Chairman in Khaldoon, but why Sheikh Mohammed? Any why was it edited out? Why did he constantly say "owners" instead of "owner"?
On the latter point, because there's a difference between coming from ill gotten gains, and generating ill gotten gains. I'm a realist, I'm not expecting him to shun all oil money because of principles, but I squared his ownership within myself as he was also a competent businessman who made billions for himself through investment.
Damocles said:inbetween said:Sheikh Mohammed owns no part of City nor is he related in any form to ADUG or Aabar, no idea why he was referenced though.
Generally when you talk about someone in a Royal Family you address all of them through respect so i can understand why Mancini mentioned them but i don't really know what Sheikh Mohammed has to do with anything, he is part of the Dubai brigade.
No he isn't. Sheikh Mohammed is the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and the next President. You're talking about Sheikh Mohammed Al Maktoum, instead of Sheikh Mohammed Al Nayhan.
Project said:Mancini never thanked them as "owners". He just thanked them. Khaldoon included who doesn't own the club.
As an earlier poster says Mansours wealth is by defacto sovereign oil money, so I am not sure the distinction between personal and State ownership holds any merit.
He thanked the owner in Mansour, the Chairman in Khaldoon, but why Sheikh Mohammed? Any why was it edited out? Why did he constantly say "owners" instead of "owner"?
On the latter point, because there's a difference between coming from ill gotten gains, and generating ill gotten gains. I'm a realist, I'm not expecting him to shun all oil money because of principles, but I squared his ownership within myself as he was also a competent businessman who made billions for himself through investment.
Blue Haze said:Damocles said:Blue Haze said:Do you really think Mancini is privy to the ownership details of the club? And do you think that if he became aware of some secret that wasn't public, he'd make such a gaffe at a stadium?
No, of course he wouldn't.
There is no reason to believe that a simple slip of the tongue would indicate a secret ownership arrangement.
So why are you implying this with no evidence?
Evidence? Thin on the ground in either circumstance:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/mansour-to-replace-man-city-directors" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news ... -directors</a>
The team led by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed in the takeover of Manchester City is preparing to introduce new directors to the board of the English Premier League club as it moves towards finalising a deal worth more than Dh1.3 billion
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/01/manchestercity.premierleague1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008 ... ierleague1</a>
"This is all the Abu Dhabi royal family," explained Anil Bhoyrul, the former Mirror journalist who broke the story for his Dubai-based magazine Arabian Business. "This [Adug] is essentially an investment vehicle set up for Man City and funded by sheikhs in the royal family. It's not exactly clear which sheikhs it is yet but this is the Abu Dhabi royal family."
Club ownership
Manchester City Football Club is owned 100% by His Highness Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan.
<a class="postlink" href="http://mcfc.co.uk/The-Club/Corporate-Info" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://mcfc.co.uk/The-Club/Corporate-Info</a>
End of, unless you're accusing our owner of lying.