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CITY: SHOWSEC, Atmosphere, & Blatant Bullying.
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i kne albert davy
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Had a branch meeting last night and asked for it to be raised with the club,supporters club have already had a fair few e-mails concerning Monday's game and events in 109. will the club and powers that be give a flying or even bother to answer,somehow i doubt it.
M18CTID
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Not all Showsec stewards are wankers of course but some are, and IMO a lot of it comes from the top of that organisation.
When I went to The Cure gig at the Arena at the back end of November I witnessed the most inept organisation and stewarding ever at a concert from these incompetent twats. Not for the first time we had standing tickets for a gig there, and turned up a good 15 minutes before The Cure came on. The woman who scanned our tickets at the entrance told us to use the entrance behind her to get to the floor. Great we thought, as there was absolutely no queue, but when we got to that entrance the steward there told us to use one of the other entrances further round as they weren't letting any more in through that door. The next couple we got to both had long queues so we proceeded to the next where again there was no queue, only to be told by the steward there that we couldn't use it and that we should proceed to the next one. It was at this point that I admittedly started getting irate and told him that we were being sent from pillar to post and it wasn't on. Turns out this Showsec steward is a season ticket holder at City who is in our block and he recognised me - he asked me to pipe down which I did and said he'd see me on Saturday for the Chelsea game. Anyway, we went to the next entrance as advised by him and somewhat astonishingly, the female steward there told us we weren't allowed in that entrance at which point we were getting seriously pissed off along with several others who had been sent on the same wild goose chase. The woman was getting it in the neck a fair bit and radioed for back-up but insisted we couldn't use that entrance and that we should double back and use one of the others. We went back to the entrance where the City supporting steward was and told him that they weren't letting anybody in that entrance either and he said there was nothing he could do and that we should keep working our way round. By that time though, the queues at the other entrances were horrendous and it wasn't helped by the fact that they were taking ticket holders with both seating and standing tickets in the entrances which was slowing the process down even further. The Cure had already taken to the stage at that point, and it took us another half an hour or so to get onto the floor for a gig where we'd shelled out the best part of £60 a ticket. While we were in the queue we got some bullshit story off one of the Showsec supervisors who said once the gig starts, they can only allow people with standing tickets through 2 entrances at the back of the arena as it blocks the views of those that are seated. Firstly, the band hadn't even taken to the stage when they started closing off entrances and secondly, we were still blocking the view of seated punters while using the 2 entrances at the back. Frankly, he was spouting utter bollocks.
Anyway, I caught up with the City-supporting steward prior to the Chelsea home game and he blamed it on too many people turning up too late - I disagreed, saying many people were already inside the venue before The Cure came on. I asked him how he'd like it if he turned up for a City game 15 minutes before kick-off, only to be told that he couldn't use his usual entrance to get to his seat and was then sent on a wild goose chase to entrance after entrance, eventually only getting to his seat half an hour after the game started. Needless to say, there wasn't much of a response.
When I went to The Cure gig at the Arena at the back end of November I witnessed the most inept organisation and stewarding ever at a concert from these incompetent twats. Not for the first time we had standing tickets for a gig there, and turned up a good 15 minutes before The Cure came on. The woman who scanned our tickets at the entrance told us to use the entrance behind her to get to the floor. Great we thought, as there was absolutely no queue, but when we got to that entrance the steward there told us to use one of the other entrances further round as they weren't letting any more in through that door. The next couple we got to both had long queues so we proceeded to the next where again there was no queue, only to be told by the steward there that we couldn't use it and that we should proceed to the next one. It was at this point that I admittedly started getting irate and told him that we were being sent from pillar to post and it wasn't on. Turns out this Showsec steward is a season ticket holder at City who is in our block and he recognised me - he asked me to pipe down which I did and said he'd see me on Saturday for the Chelsea game. Anyway, we went to the next entrance as advised by him and somewhat astonishingly, the female steward there told us we weren't allowed in that entrance at which point we were getting seriously pissed off along with several others who had been sent on the same wild goose chase. The woman was getting it in the neck a fair bit and radioed for back-up but insisted we couldn't use that entrance and that we should double back and use one of the others. We went back to the entrance where the City supporting steward was and told him that they weren't letting anybody in that entrance either and he said there was nothing he could do and that we should keep working our way round. By that time though, the queues at the other entrances were horrendous and it wasn't helped by the fact that they were taking ticket holders with both seating and standing tickets in the entrances which was slowing the process down even further. The Cure had already taken to the stage at that point, and it took us another half an hour or so to get onto the floor for a gig where we'd shelled out the best part of £60 a ticket. While we were in the queue we got some bullshit story off one of the Showsec supervisors who said once the gig starts, they can only allow people with standing tickets through 2 entrances at the back of the arena as it blocks the views of those that are seated. Firstly, the band hadn't even taken to the stage when they started closing off entrances and secondly, we were still blocking the view of seated punters while using the 2 entrances at the back. Frankly, he was spouting utter bollocks.
Anyway, I caught up with the City-supporting steward prior to the Chelsea home game and he blamed it on too many people turning up too late - I disagreed, saying many people were already inside the venue before The Cure came on. I asked him how he'd like it if he turned up for a City game 15 minutes before kick-off, only to be told that he couldn't use his usual entrance to get to his seat and was then sent on a wild goose chase to entrance after entrance, eventually only getting to his seat half an hour after the game started. Needless to say, there wasn't much of a response.
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Did anything ever come of that mate?I I know FSF got involved...[/QUOTE
Did anything ever come of that mate?I I know FSF got involved...
FYI ,
4 @ years ago on the Sunday morning of the 1-6 @ the swamp i attended our grounds offices with my son and was represented by Marie FSF .
Steve Sayer represented MCFC .
Marie was most helpful but it was a fore gone conclusion that i would lose my season ticket for 3 @ matches but my family where allowed to use my ticket in my enforced absence .
At the time i had just been appointed to a Site Managers position at one of the UK car manufacturing plants so the last thing i needed was for more publicity so i let the matter just "go away" .
All the publicity of last Monday got me thinking that i had been too soft on Show Sec so yesterday i spoke to Amanda Jacks / FSF who obtained advice on my behalf from the FSF solicitors the speedy response given by Amanda to me this morning was that the solicitors have advised that i only had 3 years to pursue a civil claim .
So that is where i am at the moment .
As a side issue because how i feel at matches now e.g. i do not even stand up when we score a goal which leaves my match day experience badly effected .
Also i have paid for 2 season cards for the last 4 @ years total cost approx £5000.00 and they have only been used by me 4 @ times a season because i find excuses why i cannot go !!
I must be mad .
I hope that answers your question and FYI i have "worn" a City shirt for 64 years .
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It seems whatever instructions come from the top of Manchester City or the Manchester Area (as stated by M18CTID) Showsec are just inept at handling the situation. I still stand by what I said earlier get rid of them and get another company in they are utter sh*te.
In a meeting between Manchester City & Showsec, the club will outline what the require, showsec have to then carry it out. Another company might come in and help the situation rather than inflame it.
In a meeting between Manchester City & Showsec, the club will outline what the require, showsec have to then carry it out. Another company might come in and help the situation rather than inflame it.
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As incompetent as showsec are and those in the club responsible, I also think the police need to take a look at themselves. They are basically allowing common assault to occur and possible breaches of the peace or worse instead of keeping the peace and using their powers to diffuse incidents.
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Slightly off the standing issue, but an experience with Showsec on Monday, I'm a 53 year old woman going to the game with her grandson, taking some belated Christmas presents for a friend at the game. They were wrapped up in Christmas paper, in a Christmas gift bag. The Showsec staff member said I couldn't take them in. I got them out of their gift bag and showed what was quite obviously a jar (jam) and tin (hot chocolate) and a small wrapping (lip salve). He then said I could only take them in if fully unwrapped. I tried to take enough of the wrapping off to show the content and brand, so it was quite clear they were a jar of jam, hot chocolate and a lip salve. Still not OK. The whole of the wrapping had to removed. By this time my grandson had gone in and was panicking because he couldn't see me, the queue was being held up and I was becoming increasingly upset. I'm still baffled as to the point of the exercise. It was obviously not alcohol or drugs. It was embarrassing and unnecessary
BimboBob
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Not all Showsec stewards are wankers of course but some are, and IMO a lot of it comes from the top of that organisation.
When I went to The Cure gig at the Arena at the back end of November I witnessed the most inept organisation and stewarding ever at a concert from these incompetent twats. Not for the first time we had standing tickets for a gig there, and turned up a good 15 minutes before The Cure came on. The woman who scanned our tickets at the entrance told us to use the entrance behind her to get to the floor. Great we thought, as there was absolutely no queue, but when we got to that entrance the steward there told us to use one of the other entrances further round as they weren't letting any more in through that door. The next couple we got to both had long queues so we proceeded to the next where again there was no queue, only to be told by the steward there that we couldn't use it and that we should proceed to the next one. It was at this point that I admittedly started getting irate and told him that we were being sent from pillar to post and it wasn't on. Turns out this Showsec steward is a season ticket holder at City who is in our block and he recognised me - he asked me to pipe down which I did and said he'd see me on Saturday for the Chelsea game. Anyway, we went to the next entrance as advised by him and somewhat astonishingly, the female steward there told us we weren't allowed in that entrance at which point we were getting seriously pissed off along with several others who had been sent on the same wild goose chase. The woman was getting it in the neck a fair bit and radioed for back-up but insisted we couldn't use that entrance and that we should double back and use one of the others. We went back to the entrance where the City supporting steward was and told him that they weren't letting anybody in that entrance either and he said there was nothing he could do and that we should keep working our way round. By that time though, the queues at the other entrances were horrendous and it wasn't helped by the fact that they were taking ticket holders with both seating and standing tickets in the entrances which was slowing the process down even further. The Cure had already taken to the stage at that point, and it took us another half an hour or so to get onto the floor for a gig where we'd shelled out the best part of £60 a ticket. While we were in the queue we got some bullshit story off one of the Showsec supervisors who said once the gig starts, they can only allow people with standing tickets through 2 entrances at the back of the arena as it blocks the views of those that are seated. Firstly, the band hadn't even taken to the stage when they started closing off entrances and secondly, we were still blocking the view of seated punters while using the 2 entrances at the back. Frankly, he was spouting utter bollocks.
Anyway, I caught up with the City-supporting steward prior to the Chelsea home game and he blamed it on too many people turning up too late - I disagreed, saying many people were already inside the venue before The Cure came on. I asked him how he'd like it if he turned up for a City game 15 minutes before kick-off, only to be told that he couldn't use his usual entrance to get to his seat and was then sent on a wild goose chase to entrance after entrance, eventually only getting to his seat half an hour after the game started. Needless to say, there wasn't much of a response.
15 whole minutes before they came on? And there were queues?
BimboBob
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Slightly off the standing issue, but an experience with Showsec on Monday, I'm a 53 year old woman going to the game with her grandson, taking some belated Christmas presents for a friend at the game. They were wrapped up in Christmas paper, in a Christmas gift bag. The Showsec staff member said I couldn't take them in. I got them out of their gift bag and showed what was quite obviously a jar (jam) and tin (hot chocolate) and a small wrapping (lip salve). He then said I could only take them in if fully unwrapped. I tried to take enough of the wrapping off to show the content and brand, so it was quite clear they were a jar of jam, hot chocolate and a lip salve. Still not OK. The whole of the wrapping had to removed. By this time my grandson had gone in and was panicking because he couldn't see me, the queue was being held up and I was becoming increasingly upset. I'm still baffled as to the point of the exercise. It was obviously not alcohol or drugs. It was embarrassing and unnecessary
Fuck me it's a bring and buy sale now.
It's a football ground. A football ground that needs to have security as there appears to be a lot of wars on at the moment and a few idiots are blowing stuff up. This would be the response of any security staff and any venue.
"Sorry Boss, she brought it in wrapped."
M18CTID
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15 whole minutes before they came on? And there were queues?
What are you trying to say? That I should've turned up 2 hours before? Concert goers are like football fans in that most of them tend to turn up closer to the main event rather than early.
The fact is that I've attended plenty of sold out gigs at that place in the past and often cut it finer than that but never have I come across such piss poor organisation and planning in getting people into the standing area. There were 6 or 8 entrances clearly marked "Standing" yet we were only allowed to use 2 of them. If all were available to use - as marked - then it wouldn't have been an issue. Imagine the chaos that would ensur if City closed off 50%-75% of entrances on a match day just as the main body of fans are arriving and then sending those fans back and forth on a wild goose chase.
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