City to expand Etihad to 62,000?

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I can’t believe there’s people moaning about getting to the stadium from other parts of Manchester. I have to travel 120 miles each way, I don’t care about a bit of traffic after the game. It’s to be expected. When I’ve gone into Manchester after games, the walk only takes 20 minutes, piece of piss.
 
I can’t believe there’s people moaning about getting to the stadium from other parts of Manchester. I have to travel 120 miles each way, I don’t care about a bit of traffic after the game. It’s to be expected. When I’ve gone into Manchester after games, the walk only takes 20 minutes, piece of piss.
It's mainly the tram because of the effect it has on the stadium atmosphere towards the end of the game. We usually drive, park up and walk a bit which takes us about 75/90mins from the whistle for a 7 mile journey. That's fine for us because we're able bodied and don't have any train or plane connections to make. For me, the tram takes about the same time, but costs more and is uncomfortable.

Expansion will make things infinitely worse so there's good reason to have a whinge. Especially when it's just poor organisation causing a lot of it.
 
I have got to the point (age and general knackeredness) where 20 minutes walk each way to and from the ground is a bit much. But for night matches, it's a lot worse. The bus services are dogshit to where I live, and it's a good mile walk from the tram stop. Taken together, these are the reasons I don't go regularly.

If anyone has a magic wand to make me 21 again, I won't care about getting to the ground either. As is said above, piece of piss. So was climbing Bowfell at that age, but I couldn't do it now.
 
The WALK to town is easy. Head to the Ashton tram stop at City Sq and you will see the start of the designated walking route back to town. It runs adjacent to the tram until Holt Town where you cross the track and head up Gt Ancoats St. You're in town in 25 minutes. By the time you've arsed about waiting for a team stood around like a lemon then got on a tram and travelled to town, the chances are you're already in town by walking. You've actually done yourself a favour, got off your arse and not been a lazy bastard!

then for the majority of home games you'll be soaked through, develop mild hypothermia, end up missing the next home game and log onto Bluemoon to a 50 page thread of people whinging about why you didn't go to the game and why you didn't make sure that someone bought your ticket off the ticket exchange...
 
It's mainly the tram because of the effect it has on the stadium atmosphere towards the end of the game. We usually drive, park up and walk a bit which takes us about 75/90mins from the whistle for a 7 mile journey. That's fine for us because we're able bodied and don't have any train or plane connections to make. For me, the tram takes about the same time, but costs more and is uncomfortable.

Expansion will make things infinitely worse so there's good reason to have a whinge. Especially when it's just poor organisation causing a lot of it.
The smart thing to do is to live in manchester. Massive saving in time which is the most important resource of all.
 
I can’t see people in the Family Stand being too excited about being relocated to watch the match on a tv screen.

Well, if we do try and build a massive 1-tier dortmund style end, similar to whats spuds are building, it would mean all existing season tickets in that stand to be relocated, wouldnt be able to simply tack it onto the back of the stand as the last expansion required.
So where would they go then? we sellout every game at home in the league as it is, with something like 48000 season ticket holders, thats only around 7k none ST seats to cater for the Family stand to move into whilst building works are completed, and then when it has been done will Family stand members want to stand in the new end? I very much doubt it. So the entire family stand would probably need to be moved anyway, where would they go? In the opposite end next to the away fans? Thats another no no, so we will have a bit of a compromise required to actually get the new stand built.
Ideally, the newly built safe standing terrace can hold both the singing section and the away fans, with the family stand in South Stand
 
The thing that get's me is this.

United get 76,000 every home match. There ground is hemmed in. They have to walk a distance to the Metrolink stop. The roads are gridlocked around Old Trafford after the match. But the funny thing is, you never hear United fans complaining about getting away from OT. Especially the Cockney's, etc. Why are we different?

A walk into town. Buses outside the stadium. Better road network. Metrolink part of the campus. Onsite car parking. United fans would love our setup.
Because it’s worse at our place. Even though it was, up until very recently, half decent for me on the Met it was always bad in a car.

I go to the Super League Grand Final every year at Old Trafford and am always surprised at how much they have on offer to get you away from the ground.

Around Old Trafford the road network affords for a larger movement of traffic in all directions (apart from the roads going in the Chorlton direction), they have a train station basically within the stadium, they have water taxis on the canals, they have two [soon to be three] Metrolink stations with double units going on all directions as well as hell of a lot more pubs around the ground to take up a bit of slack of everyone leaving at once. Can even book canal narrow boats to take you from certain areas to Old Trafford in the Summer.

The shipment of people on the three lanes or 40mph two lanes of Chester Rd or three lanes of Trafford Rd makes a huge difference to their movement of cars buses and taxis compared to our one lane roads heading to Town where there are thousands of people walking in the road in the same direction (can’t do that on Chester Road as you’d be mowed down so the traffic moves more freely) as well as Mets on the same roads going in the same directions slowing the traffic down further. The Met lines around OT are on their own tracks away from the roads.

Plus a lot of their car parks are in Trafford Park where they have a lot of space and a lot of different roads to network around away from the car parks, whereas use little local Primary schools within a small distance from the Etihad and they all spill onto the same roads with everyone else.

The worst one for us is the recent change to the Altrincham Met line. Up until January I could be sat in my living room watching tele and be in my seat at the Etihad within 45minutes on a direct Met from Navi. Then even with a bit of an annoying wait in the queues at the Etihad stop I could be back in my living room within an hour and fifteen minutes of the final whistle on a direct Met from the Etihad to Navi. Now they’ve stopped the direct Mets to Alty and you can only get Eccles or MediaCityUK Mets from the Etihad and they only put on one single unit Alty Met on within a good length of time after the game so there’s a mad rush to squeeze on that either at Piccadilly or the Gardens, and if you’ve chanced it and gone up to St Peter’s/Deans-Cas/Cornbrook to wait for that single unit Alty Met you can’t fit on it and have to wait ages for he next one (and sometimes that’s been a single unit as well). I’ve emailed TFGM Metrolink about this and I just got a generic “we take our services very seriously and feel we provide the best service we can, we take on board your feedback...” reply.

It takes me less time to get to and from the Britannia, or whatever it’s called now, 35 miles away for an away game at Stoke than it does a home game just ten miles across Manchester.
 
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Well, if we do try and build a massive 1-tier dortmund style end, similar to whats spuds are building, it would mean all existing season tickets in that stand to be relocated, wouldnt be able to simply tack it onto the back of the stand as the last expansion required.
So where would they go then? we sellout every game at home in the league as it is, with something like 48000 season ticket holders, thats only around 7k none ST seats to cater for the Family stand to move into whilst building works are completed, and then when it has been done will Family stand members want to stand in the new end? I very much doubt it. So the entire family stand would probably need to be moved anyway, where would they go? In the opposite end next to the away fans? Thats another no no, so we will have a bit of a compromise required to actually get the new stand built.
Ideally, the newly built safe standing terrace can hold both the singing section and the away fans, with the family stand in South Stand
Having the family stand next to the away fans would work until we play Boro. We all know how ithat worked out at Maine Rd.
 
The WALK to town is easy. Head to the Ashton tram stop at City Sq and you will see the start of the designated walking route back to town. It runs adjacent to the tram until Holt Town where you cross the track and head up Gt Ancoats St. You're in town in 25 minutes. By the time you've arsed about waiting for a team stood around like a lemon then got on a tram and travelled to town, the chances are you're already in town by walking. You've actually done yourself a favour, got off your arse and not been a lazy bastard!
That’s great for me, you and most fit and healthy people. But many people in our fan base are not able to walk two miles. Many wouldn’t want to walk that far in the rain and cold neither.
 
I can’t believe there’s people moaning about getting to the stadium from other parts of Manchester. I have to travel 120 miles each way, I don’t care about a bit of traffic after the game. It’s to be expected. When I’ve gone into Manchester after games, the walk only takes 20 minutes, piece of piss.
It’s not just a stadium/match day issue, the public transport and road networks cannot support the volume of the movement of 2.7m people of this conurbation every single day of the year. Rush hour in this city is some of the worst in Europe. Match days are just another example of how it doesn’t work. It’s frustrating every day here.

This is the main commuter area into and around this conurbation day-to-day:
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We do not have the road or public transport infrastructure to support slick movement of that many people. And the roads are in TERRIBLE shape.

The transport of this city is not for for purpose.
 
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