City v CSKA Moscow Pre Match Discussion Thread

[Manx Blue]

hoping for some

....Medieval battle re-enactments on a warm Summer's day?

 

[M18SK13]

We need to field the strongest team possible tonight.

OK I'm bored in work waiting for the match tonight. Being of the age where some of us still think if it can go wrong, it will go wrong for City, so here goes.....

For what it's worth, I think we will win tonight. But not many seem to appreciate what the situation could be IF it goes tits up tonight.

If Munich win tonight (which they will) they will be on 12 points and will have qualified unless something bizarre happens - they then lose 4-0 or worse to CSKA and the same to us in the last match, CSKA win tonight and against Plzen and we beat Plzen. Three teams on twelve points, Munich go out on head-to-head. This won't happen so Munich are pretty much through.

Now, if we lose 2-1 or worse tonight, CSKA would be ahead of us on head-to-head.

BM 12, CSKA 6, City 6, VP 0

Munich, who have presumably already qualified, send a weakened team to Moscow and draw. City beat Plzen (I'm not that pessimistic).

BM 13, City 9, CSKA 7, VP 0

Final matches. If CSKA beat Plzen, who have nothing to play for. We would then have to beat Munich to qualify, a draw wouldn't be good enough. Munich would field a strong team at home in front of their fans with a chance to take City out.

Win - BM 13, City 12, CSKA 10, VP 0. - Through
Draw - BM 14, CSKA 10, City 10, VP 0. - Out

If we lose 1-0 tonight and Munich draw in Moscow it could go down to goal difference and a draw in Munich might do. If Munich (reserves) lose in Moscow we would probably have to win in Munich.

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

Lets just make sure we win tonight eh! simples

 

[wattle]

Sooooo... I take it I'm right in thinking if we win tonight we are through - 6 points ahead of CSK with two to go and with the obvious better head to head, and if we draw tonight, then a win vrs Victoria P means we are also through?????

 

[mat]

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ALLEGEDLY abusive CSKA Moscow fans flying from Russia to England for a Champions League clash with Manchester City have reportedly forced a plane to make an emergency landing in Denmark.

Russia's Sport Express daily reported that half a dozen CSKA fans were arrested by Danish police after the plane made an emergency landing at Copenhagen airport.

The plane later continued to Manchester but the flight attendants ordered the CSKA fans to remain in their seats at all times, the report added.

It said three fans had been released but another three were still in Danish custody.

If confirmed, the incident would be the latest scandal involving CSKA fans after they racially abused Yaya Toure when the team hosted Manchester City in Moscow for the home leg.

UEFA has ruled CSKA must play their next home Champions League match in a partly closed stadium as punishment.

The report did not identify the airline involved but the only company offering direct flights from Moscow to Manchester is EasyJet.

Data on its website showed that Sunday's flight from Moscow EZY 1872 was "diverted to Copenhagen" and arrived in Manchester with a two-hour delay, although no reason was given.

Lets hope they are not out to cause trouble at the match tonight.

Knowing UEFA they'll ban us for 5 years blaming our Racism claims as starting it....

 

[M18SK13]

Sooooo... I take it I'm right in thinking if we win tonight we are through - 6 points ahead of CSK with two to go and with the obvious better head to head, and if we draw tonight, then a win vrs Victoria P means we are also through?????

Yes, that's right.

If we lose 1-0, we have to equal CSKA's results against Plsen and Munich and it's then down to goal difference.

If we lose 2-1 or worse we have to better their results, which will probably mean needing something in Munich. Worse case scenario, if Munich then throw the game in Moscow, we are probably out.

 

[bayern blade]

Yes, that's right.

If we lose 1-0, we have to equal CSKA's results against Plsen and Munich and it's then down to goal difference.

If we lose 2-1 or worse we have to better their results, which will probably mean needing something in Munich. Worse case scenario, if Munich then throw the game in Moscow, we are probably out.

We aren't in the business of throwing games, but I would imagine we would rest a few players in Moscow given that we will have had our strongest eleven out four days earlier in Dortmund.
If City win tonight and I'm sure that they will, a point v Pilsen will send us through.

 

[mac]

Yes, that's right.

If we lose 1-0, we have to equal CSKA's results against Plsen and Munich and it's then down to goal difference.

If we lose 2-1 or worse we have to better their results, which will probably mean needing something in Munich. Worse case scenario, if Munich then throw the game in Moscow, we are probably out.

We aren't in the business of throwing games, but I would imagine we would rest a few players in Moscow given that we will have had our strongest eleven out four days earlier in Dortmund.
If City win tonight and I'm sure that they will, a point v Pilsen will send us through.

I cannot see anything past a hammering of pilzen,tonight plus a win for us .

 

[aguero93:20]

Sooooo... I take it I'm right in thinking if we win tonight we are through - 6 points ahead of CSK with two to go and with the obvious better head to head, and if we draw tonight, then a win vrs Victoria P means we are also through?????

if we lose 1-0 were still ahead on away goals on head to head, just as if it.were a 2 legged tie.
sorry for nitpicking.
we beat cska tonight, plzen get battered by both us and bayern and they get cocky and rest some players on the final match day, we win 3-0 and top the group.
I think that's more likely than us failing to progress at this poiny, I really do.
Yes, that's right.

If we lose 1-0, we have to equal CSKA's results against Plsen and Munich and it's then down to goal difference.

If we lose 2-1 or worse we have to better their results, which will probably mean needing something in Munich. Worse case scenario, if Munich then throw the game in Moscow, we are probably out.

<br /><br />-- Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:34 pm --<br /><br />? quote came out backwards there

 

[bayern blade]

I cannot see anything past a hammering of pilzen,tonight plus a win for us .

I agree that we should both win. I can't see why some of you lads are worried about tonight, you did the hard work in Russia, at home you should beat them easily, they are average at best. I think City will win by about 3 goals tbh.