City V PSG ticket Prices: 1894 Group statement in full

[peoffrey]

I think the problem with a walk out, especially at the 60 minute mark, will have some fans kicking off with the ones walking as though they're not supporting the team when, let's be honest here, they need it badly at the moment. I can understand it to some extent. I actually think boycotting the first 15 minutes is the better option.

But they'd surely then kick off with people disrupting their enjoyment of the match 15 minutes in.

If I leave on 60 then I'll blank anyone who accuses me of not getting behind the side. I'd only listen to a friend telling me that. The views of a stranger is irrelevant to me.

The sad thing is that there's no perfect solution aside from City suddenly reducing prices.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

In my opinion, with just over 2 weeks to go until the WBA game, any protest should have already been decided on, and now we should be spreading the word. I don't think it's particularly helped that there were so many potential options, and still we are lacking any kind of coherent place for options on here, no poll, no real dedicated protest thread, just one full of arguing.

I don't agree about the timeline, but I'm in full agreement about trying to find a real consensus now. We've discussed it, now time for some kind of poll.

 

[jrb]

Utter bollocks. You only have to read on here how many wouldn't walk out due to it being too early/the prices aren't that bad/i'm alright jack/we have to pay for success/we're not scousers/i might miss a goal to see that a walk out on 60 wasn't going to be fully supported. Banners, and along with it some TV and media coverage is the right way to go as a first step, IMO

Perhaps not, but look at all the media exposure 2 words, 'walk out', have got. And in doing so, have piled pressure on the exec's who come up with the money making idea"s and implement them. I don't have to tell anyone, but since the £60 ticket shit hit the fan, there have been meetings and discussions at the club. 2 words that may or may not still happen.

 

[inchy14]

But they'd surely then kick off with people disrupting their enjoyment of the match 15 minutes in.

If I leave on 60 then I'll blank anyone who accuses me of not getting behind the side. I'd only listen to a friend telling me that. The views of a stranger is irrelevant to me.

The sad thing is that there's no perfect solution aside from City suddenly reducing prices.

I know what you mean but staying on the concourse for 15 minutes will cause less disruption than leaving early, plus if it's in the balance that's when people will start throwing accusations about not being supportive.
Let's be honest it's the club not players were angry with here.

 

[peoffrey]

A few players aren't pulling their weight this season. I'll welcome departures when Guardiola rebuilds.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

ok. some background here :

44,729 people viewed the statement on 1894 facebook in 24 hours alone. tons of comments afterwards and mails ito 1894. 156 shares of the article. also article went round the world, evening news, goal.com (55m worldwide followers), mailonline (biggest audience for an online paper), journos like henry winter tweeting about it. various surveys on facebook about it. guess what, the bluemoon clique isn't the only forum out there - there's actually life outside this bubble. w've had chats with the official supporters club, king of the kippax, city watch forum, mcfc forum, spirit of shankly and sought the inside track of what we have to do to move things along.

support for a walk out maybe 10% tops but then that doesn't mean 10% would walk out. the media coverage we are getting for this is huge and we know it has reached the top of the club. by the top we mean ferran soriano, simon pearce. that's where the decisions on ticket prices are made. to get guys like this to change their minds and reverse the trends of constant rises you have to make them take notice. 200 people tops walking out at various blocks of the ground can't be noticed. 20,000 would and if the City fans were gonna do that we would definitely say let's do it.

we may get one chance to do a walk out and it cannot fail. you have to represent a majority not a minority.

but look what's been said. we have said some people will want to walk out. so rather than dismiss them we have said Blues, show some understanding, they want to do it.
we've won the moral argument. media is putting club under pressure. we have had no contact from club. our point of contact is away skiing til Tuesday and there are various levels of hierarchy above that person.

if they did try and put pressure on us, we would go public with that and that would then play into our hands and opinion would then allow us to go further. we are saying don't raise prices any more or people will walk away from this club. that's the message people want us to deliver to the club. if they fall into the trap and ignore the fans, then we know more people will back stronger action.

fans are more likely to not go to the psg game than walk out half an hour early v west brom. what we want is the solution that actually delivers what we want. Pearce and Soriano won't budge if 200 walk out but they will if 20,000 walk out and if/when City fans are seriously ready to do that we can make that happen. what we can't have is threads like this ending up 200 300 pages of bluster an chit chat and then at the end of it nothing happens. we said in statement one SOME FANS WANT A WALK OUT. We put that in 1) to guarantee media attention and 2) to gauge response from fans on it. so we've done your job for you. we have ever promised a walk out. we seek opinion first.

Liverpool walk out was culmination of 13 months of anger over various issues, £77 tickets for league games the tipping point

as it is everyone has 2 weeks now to prepare banners etc and protest at the west brom game. still back the team but on 60 minutes let rip during a live TV game. its a golden opportunity to make a point , so use it.

When you give that 10% figure, what are you gauging it on specifically?

There are hundreds of thousands of plastic fans from all over the globe on Facebook, many of whom could be skewing your perception of the potential backing a walk out would have. I'm absolutely adamant that support for a walk out would be greater among match going blues. My own anecdotal evidence speaking to regulars around me on Sunday, and mates who are blues suggests 10% is a vastly deflated figure unrepresentative of what would be true among people who will be at the game against West Brom, and I'd say the same about the discussion here on bluemoon.

I fully accept what you're saying though about the situation, as you perceive it, and I'm sorry for questioning your integrity. I accept you're sincere and on our side, just very disappointed in your decision.

Edit: what did the Spirit of Shankly lads have to say about it by the way mate? They give any advice, what were their thoughts?

 

[IWasHere]

I am still upset he said there is life outside of blue moon?

What's a life

 

[jrb]

I agree, a poll would be the next step. At this rate we will be discussing a protest right up to the West Brom match.

My 4 poll options. Obviously poll options are open to other ideas.

1. Protest and stay on the concourse, then go on the terraces with the banners and in silence.
2. Protest on the terraces with banners and silence, then walk out on to the concourse.
3. Tennis Balls and silence.(silence is optional on this one)
4. Banners and silence on the terraces. No walkout.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I am totally against the prices but I don't think a walk out will gain enough support. The only way this would have a chance of working for me is if leaflets were handed out before the game informing people of what will be happening. They then have a choice. The vast majority won't even know it's happening.

I also don't think that the club will allow a banner in criticising the club either and a small banner is not enough. It has to be a display that everyone can see.

I'm not sure what will work to be honest, although hitting them in the pocket would be felt the most. If everyone cancelled platinum and cup schemes who was against the prices then they would suffer financially long term. I bet there are thousands on platinum who don't fully understand what it is,don't go to away games and therefore have no purpose for it. They will have signed up because it was "platinum"

My protest is I'm not going to the QF and cancelling the cup scheme. It might not appear much, but if 10,000 others did it, then it would make them think as long as the seats are not filled by tourists.

My hope is that the stadium has more empty seats than ever for the PSG game.

 

[quiet_riot]

I don't agree about the timeline, but I'm in full agreement about trying to find a real consensus now. We've discussed it, now time for some kind of poll.

Perhaps not, but look at all the media exposure 2 words, 'walk out', have got. And in doing so, have piled pressure on the exec's who come up with the money making idea"s and implement them. I don't have to tell anyone, but since the £60 ticket shit hit the fan, there have been meetings and discussions at the club. 2 words that may or may not still happen.

Apologies if I've come across as unsupportive of walking there, I do think that would work, I just don't feel at this stage that enough people would join in.