City V Southampton post match discussion

Match today should have been won by half time,
Having said that, mancini nearly fucked up in many aspects of todays game.
Did he take it serious enough by putting rodwell straight into team and messing around with formation we'd played all pre season to then revert back to last seasons formation.
Does he deliberately pick squads to get rid of players and make them unsettled. Kolo,johnson, dejong.
Pick best team and squad then worry if the leave in the window later.
 
ABU inc GDR said:
black mamba said:
Lazy player or not , you leave Dzeko in the side for 38 league games this season and he'll probably bag you 20 goals ..... that's the long and short of it , and that's probably what we'll miss if we get shut of him !

You've obvious;y never played football to any decent standard. Dzeko is our 4th choice striker and he's not lived up to expectation. No way is he worth 27mill that we paid for him, he has no fisrt touch and he is bobbins in the air.

It really does hurt me to say this but I'm sick of seeing his pathetic efforts on the pitch. You mark my words he will be sold next summer for 15 mill if were lucky and will never eclipse his performances for us!

-- Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:49 pm --

taconinja said:
ABU inc GDR said:
Are you fuckin deluded, nobody passes to him in the team beacuse he's useless, when we sell him next year we'll be lucky to get 15mill for him.
You are tedious.

Take your head out of the sand a smell the shit FFS! He's a fuckin donkey!

So roughly 66 goals in 111 appearances for Wolfsburg, 18 goals in 48 appearances for us, and 21 goals in 45 appearances for Bosnia... Man, that is some donkey.
 
SebastianBlue said:
ABU inc GDR said:
black mamba said:
Lazy player or not , you leave Dzeko in the side for 38 league games this season and he'll probably bag you 20 goals ..... that's the long and short of it , and that's probably what we'll miss if we get shut of him !

You've obvious;y never played football to any decent standard. Dzeko is our 4th choice striker and he's not lived up to expectation. No way is he worth 27mill that we paid for him, he has no fisrt touch and he is bobbins in the air.

It really does hurt me to say this but I'm sick of seeing his pathetic efforts on the pitch. You mark my words he will be sold next summer for 15 mill if were lucky and will never eclipse his performances for us!

-- Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:49 pm --

taconinja said:
You are tedious.

Take your head out of the sand a smell the shit FFS! He's a fuckin donkey!

So roughly 66 goals in 111 appearances for Wolfsburg, 18 goals in 48 appearances for us, and 21 goals in 45 appearances for Bosnia... Man, that is some donkey.

Like I said it pains me to have to call a spade a shovel but he's not good enough for us. He's 4th choice striker and rightfully so, has a shocking first touch and is not good enough for European competition. He has not been successful at City thus far as he's 4th choice striker and never will be, if we get 15mill for him next summer I'd be surprised. 18 goals in 48 appearances for the top scoring team in the EPL is not so good, compare his ratio to Kun, Carlito and Ballo and Dzeko is 6ft 3in tall.
 
ABU inc GDR said:
black mamba said:
Lazy player or not , you leave Dzeko in the side for 38 league games this season and he'll probably bag you 20 goals ..... that's the long and short of it , and that's probably what we'll miss if we get shut of him !

You've obvious;y never played football to any decent standard. Dzeko is our 4th choice striker and he's not lived up to expectation. No way is he worth 27mill that we paid for him, he has no fisrt touch and he is bobbins in the air.

It really does hurt me to say this but I'm sick of seeing his pathetic efforts on the pitch. You mark my words he will be sold next summer for 15 mill if were lucky and will never eclipse his performances for us!

-- Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:49 pm --

taconinja said:
ABU inc GDR said:
Are you fuckin deluded, nobody passes to him in the team beacuse he's useless, when we sell him next year we'll be lucky to get 15mill for him.
You are tedious.

Take your head out of the sand a smell the shit FFS! He's a fuckin donkey!
None of that has any bearing on the levels of tedium you bring. None. I could agree with you and would still rather be on the opposite side of the argument.
 
taconinja said:
ABU inc GDR said:
black mamba said:
Lazy player or not , you leave Dzeko in the side for 38 league games this season and he'll probably bag you 20 goals ..... that's the long and short of it , and that's probably what we'll miss if we get shut of him !

You've obvious;y never played football to any decent standard. Dzeko is our 4th choice striker and he's not lived up to expectation. No way is he worth 27mill that we paid for him, he has no fisrt touch and he is bobbins in the air.

It really does hurt me to say this but I'm sick of seeing his pathetic efforts on the pitch. You mark my words he will be sold next summer for 15 mill if were lucky and will never eclipse his performances for us!

-- Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:49 pm --

taconinja said:
You are tedious.

Take your head out of the sand a smell the shit FFS! He's a fuckin donkey!
None of that has any bearing on the levels of tedium you bring. None. I could agree with you and would still rather be on the opposite side of the argument.

Thats exactly why we were everybodys second favourite team. At least the heads warm burried deep in the sand. Why do our fans insist we have to be a charity club eh?
 
ABU inc GDR said:
taconinja said:
ABU inc GDR said:
You've obvious;y never played football to any decent standard. Dzeko is our 4th choice striker and he's not lived up to expectation. No way is he worth 27mill that we paid for him, he has no fisrt touch and he is bobbins in the air.

It really does hurt me to say this but I'm sick of seeing his pathetic efforts on the pitch. You mark my words he will be sold next summer for 15 mill if were lucky and will never eclipse his performances for us!

-- Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:49 pm --



Take your head out of the sand a smell the shit FFS! He's a fuckin donkey!
None of that has any bearing on the levels of tedium you bring. None. I could agree with you and would still rather be on the opposite side of the argument.

Thats exactly why we were everybodys second favourite team. At least the heads warm burried deep in the sand. Why do our fans insist we have to be a charity club eh?
Come on, you can do better than that for a wind-up, can't you?
 
ABU inc GDR said:
SebastianBlue said:
ABU inc GDR said:
You've obvious;y never played football to any decent standard. Dzeko is our 4th choice striker and he's not lived up to expectation. No way is he worth 27mill that we paid for him, he has no fisrt touch and he is bobbins in the air.

It really does hurt me to say this but I'm sick of seeing his pathetic efforts on the pitch. You mark my words he will be sold next summer for 15 mill if were lucky and will never eclipse his performances for us!

-- Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:49 pm --



Take your head out of the sand a smell the shit FFS! He's a fuckin donkey!

So roughly 66 goals in 111 appearances for Wolfsburg, 18 goals in 48 appearances for us, and 21 goals in 45 appearances for Bosnia... Man, that is some donkey.

Like I said it pains me to have to call a spade a shovel but he's not good enough for us. He's 4th choice striker and rightfully so, has a shocking first touch and is not good enough for European competition. He has not been successful at City thus far as he's 4th choice striker and never will be, if we get 15mill for him next summer I'd be surprised. 18 goals in 48 appearances for the top scoring team in the EPL is not so good, compare his ratio to Kun, Carlito and Ballo and Dzeko is 6ft 3in tall.

How many 4th strikers in Europe scored 19 goals last season?

Look, I agree, his process is ugly...but his production is beautiful. His goals per minute were equal to the goal scoring leaders in the Prem. Hell, Dzeko was in the Top 10 in League goals last season....as a 4th striker!

Frankly I find it very strange that you go after Dzeko after this game. Silva was markedly worse, and expectations for him are much higher. What did you think of his performance today?

Very strange. Is this a WUM?
 
me an another blue had this argument not long into last season, he says get rid, i say keep. He is horrible to watch..its like hitting the slo mo button as soon as he gets the ball...but goals win games (no shit sherlock) not passes or possession. He'll score a few and they all count at the end of season, imagine no Dzeko goals last season...KEEP!
 
taconinja said:
ABU inc GDR said:
Marvin said:
What an idiot. Another goal! What more do you want? Striker's job to score goals and he's done it again

Are you fuckin deluded, nobody passes to him in the team beacuse he's useless, when we sell him next year we'll be lucky to get 15mill for him.
You are tedious.
He's a United fan on the wind-up.
 
I thought dzeko had a good game. He held the ball up well and most of all scored an important goal.
 
Can someone please analyze the tape and tell me Dzeko's passing percentage today compared to everyone else? I know I'm biased, but I fail to see how Dzeko had anything but a decent performance today. He engaged, held the ball up, made some good passes, made himself available in the box. Sure he wasted a few chances but so did Tevez, Balo, and others. Why is he the favorite target for bashing? It's almost like the Nazis blaming everything on the Jews.
 
BosnianDiamond said:
Can someone please analyze the tape and tell me Dzeko's passing percentage today compared to everyone else? I know I'm biased, but I fail to see how Dzeko had anything but a decent performance today. He engaged, held the ball up, made some good passes, made himself available in the box. Sure he wasted a few chances but so did Tevez, Balo, and others. Why is he the favorite target for bashing? It's almost like the Nazis blaming everything on the Jews.

a lot less serious than that. just a utd fan winding people up.
 
lastmanback said:
Match today should have been won by half time,
Having said that, mancini nearly fucked up in many aspects of todays game.
Did he take it serious enough by putting rodwell straight into team and messing around with formation we'd played all pre season to then revert back to last seasons formation.
Does he deliberately pick squads to get rid of players and make them unsettled. Kolo,johnson, dejong.
Pick best team and squad then worry if the leave in the window later.

X2
Exactly how I see it sir.
As for dzeko 4th choice striker yes, big game champions league player no, just look at the Napoli games last year dzeko 6 chances 0 goals, cavani 5 chances 3 goals
 
BosnianDiamond said:
Can someone please analyze the tape and tell me Dzeko's passing percentage today compared to everyone else? I know I'm biased, but I fail to see how Dzeko had anything but a decent performance today. He engaged, held the ball up, made some good passes, made himself available in the box. Sure he wasted a few chances but so did Tevez, Balo, and others. Why is he the favorite target for bashing? It's almost like the Nazis blaming everything on the Jews.
22/29 passing.

His overall performance in my opinion was poor, I remember in the first half Nasri (I think?) pulled it back to him in the box and he almost feel over after his first touch. Then at the end when we were running down the clock he decided to go on a solo run and lost the ball.

I know that's just two examples but he just looks clumsy all the time, but his goal scoring record is more than impressive. I always want him to do well (contrary to popular belief on here)

There was also a chance when Yaya tried to play it into Mario and it took a deflection and rolled right into the path of Edin in the box, but he was too busy moaning at Yaya for not passing it to him the first time he reacted too slow.

He's perfect to bring off the bench, which even though he played 75 minutes, he did today. Not many, if any, 4th choice strikers have his goal scoring record so we are lucky to have him. Yet, I would rather Mario take Aguero's place for whatever time he's out because I feel he offers more, he was filling in at left back sometimes yesterday.
 
pudge said:
BosnianDiamond said:
Can someone please analyze the tape and tell me Dzeko's passing percentage today compared to everyone else? I know I'm biased, but I fail to see how Dzeko had anything but a decent performance today. He engaged, held the ball up, made some good passes, made himself available in the box. Sure he wasted a few chances but so did Tevez, Balo, and others. Why is he the favorite target for bashing? It's almost like the Nazis blaming everything on the Jews.
22/29 passing.

His overall performance in my opinion was poor, I remember in the first half Nasri (I think?) pulled it back to him in the box and he almost feel over after his first touch. Then at the end when we were running down the clock he decided to go on a solo run and lost the ball.

I know that's just two examples but he just looks clumsy all the time, but his goal scoring record is more than impressive. I always want him to do well (contrary to popular belief on here)

There was also a chance when Yaya tried to play it into Mario and it took a deflection and rolled right into the path of Edin in the box, but he was too busy moaning at Yaya for not passing it to him the first time he reacted too slow.

He's perfect to bring off the bench, which even though he played 75 minutes, he did today. Not many, if any, 4th choice strikers have his goal scoring record so we are lucky to have him. Yet, I would rather Mario take Aguero's place for whatever time he's out because I feel he offers more, he was filling in at left back sometimes yesterday.
Zabaleta also dribbled the ball straight down into their territory and lost it instead of holding it better. Honestly at this point I think we've conditioned ourselves to certain expectations from certain players and sometimes it's fair. Sometimes though it isn't. I'll use the example of my view on Rodwell. I think he's overrated, straightforward, and has serious lapses that lead to severe errors that lead to opposition goals. I've re-watched today's match to pay particular attention to what he did well and I feel that I was a bit harsh. Only a bit though. Hopefully he'll improve. I won't hold my breath though. That's the thing in the end. We have to trust the club and the manager to get it right as they've earned it.

Let's hope we thump the scousers.
 
On a non-Dzeko topic, did anyone else feel like Hart was moving slowly today? I wonder if he was still fighting back issues today. He looked a bit slow to react, to me. I hope he feels better soon. We need the big guy at 100%.
 
taconinja said:
pudge said:
BosnianDiamond said:
Can someone please analyze the tape and tell me Dzeko's passing percentage today compared to everyone else? I know I'm biased, but I fail to see how Dzeko had anything but a decent performance today. He engaged, held the ball up, made some good passes, made himself available in the box. Sure he wasted a few chances but so did Tevez, Balo, and others. Why is he the favorite target for bashing? It's almost like the Nazis blaming everything on the Jews.
22/29 passing.

His overall performance in my opinion was poor, I remember in the first half Nasri (I think?) pulled it back to him in the box and he almost feel over after his first touch. Then at the end when we were running down the clock he decided to go on a solo run and lost the ball.

I know that's just two examples but he just looks clumsy all the time, but his goal scoring record is more than impressive. I always want him to do well (contrary to popular belief on here)

There was also a chance when Yaya tried to play it into Mario and it took a deflection and rolled right into the path of Edin in the box, but he was too busy moaning at Yaya for not passing it to him the first time he reacted too slow.

He's perfect to bring off the bench, which even though he played 75 minutes, he did today. Not many, if any, 4th choice strikers have his goal scoring record so we are lucky to have him. Yet, I would rather Mario take Aguero's place for whatever time he's out because I feel he offers more, he was filling in at left back sometimes yesterday.
Zabaleta also dribbled the ball straight down into their territory and lost it instead of holding it better. Honestly at this point I think we've conditioned ourselves to certain expectations from certain players and sometimes it's fair. Sometimes though it isn't. I'll use the example of my view on Rodwell. I think he's overrated, straightforward, and has serious lapses that lead to severe errors that lead to opposition goals. I've re-watched today's match to pay particular attention to what he did well and I feel that I was a bit harsh. Only a bit though. Hopefully he'll improve. I won't hold my breath though. That's the thing in the end. We have to trust the club and the manager to get it right as they've earned it.

Let's hope we thump the scousers.
A few too many players had poor games and shocking moments. The question was asked of Dzeko so I'm not singling him out.

But it was the first game and we won, 3 points are all that matter. We'll improve and push on.
 
Cheadle Blue said:
fuck sake, i love football and city, but first game of the season over, i feel sick ot the stomach, headache, ive cut my foot open booting my xbox controller across the room (which is now in pieces). the cats are scared to death, and the mrs isn't speaking to me, due to my behaviour.


Hahahah u legend
 
Salar said:
savo said:
DANNY O'B said:
i think the whole message on a t shirt thing has been done to death now. exciting if not too exciting game, that we couldve quite easily have not won today. all credit to soton they looked lethal infront of goal. nasri starting to show some of the form we saw at arsenal, he was tremendous today. now lets all go back to the de rossi thread..


This^^
Spirited performance from the saints, bored to death of T-shirt messages. Should just let the football do the talking. 3 points as required.
Nasri's was nice.


Ok, all beautiful sentiments and everything, but if a message is shown for every occasion where does it stop? Happy Easter, happy Passover, happy Chinese new year. They're paid to express themselves with the ball. Given that they all have twitter accounts isnt this the appropriate medium?
Anyway that was just an quick non football observation, good news is that the Kun may not be injured for long, we,got 3 points in the bag. I was really impressed with Marios attitude. He was the 4th striker brought on the pitch, he worked his socks off and didn't moan once. Dzekos 1st touch let him down on occasion but he did get a goal which is all we need him to do.
 

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